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Saturday, April 29, 2017

Ramblings of a Comic Geek: Comic Cons & Comics!

Some might not remember a time when comic conventions were just about that: comics! Yep, there was a time when a comic convention just had dealers selling comics and local comic artists.

There wasn't a horde of celebrities pawning their signatures or slinging photo ops, panels that had directors, actors, and writers talk about whatever movie, people who just dressed up to cosplay, and booths that sold wares that had absolutely nothing to do with comics. Not that I have anything against all that, but I do remember when comic cons were pretty much just about comics.

Well, actually, I may have something slightly against it. Perhaps more with the bigger cons than the smaller cons.

Don't get me wrong here. I don't mind celebrity autographs. Hell, I had to get Jason Mewes and Lea Thompson's autograph, and later this year, I am aiming to get my Flash season one box set signed by Danielle Panabaker.

Photo ops? Not really into paying a celeb to pose in a picture with me and pretend like we know each other. I think it's kinda creepy to be honest.

That's just me though, but fans obviously like to do that shiz. For me, I still go to comic cons mainly for comics and finding deals on comics. That's still my number one priority.

All the other stuff is nice but not a necessity. After all, the word "comic" is before convention, and when all that other stuff starts pushing comics into the backseat, I find it irritating.

Once again, that's just me. With that said, a big con that only has 25% or less of it's space occupied by comic dealers is strange.

Yes, I am aware that booth space at these big cons are expensive. Most dealers have to pal in together in order to get a space.

Heck, I'm sure quite a few local dealers don't even bother getting booth space at bigger cons and I don't blame 'em. For someone like me, it's not very economical to even hunt for comics at bigger cons.

Whoa! What, you mean?

Don't get me wrong here. This is not a review of Silicon Valley Comic Con or anything.

I'm not trying to persuade or dissuade anyone from going or not going. This is from the perspective of someone who basically just guns for comics at comic conventions.

Here's my dilemma in the matter: Silicon Valley Comic Con cost $50 for a single day to attend. Okay, I know that's nothing compared to San Diego Comic Con, but $50 for someone who just hunts for comics at a con is pretty ridiculous.

Let's review that concept. $50 for a single day just to be able to shop for comics that are at the convention. Now, I know it's cool that dealers from all over the area come around and there is a wide selection of comics, but $50 just to hunt for comics for a single day?

Now, imagine if you had to pay $50 just to be able to shop on eBay or the mall every time you visit.  I think you can see where I'm going with this, right?

The truth is that we don't have to pay every time to use eBay if we just want to shop for comics. In fact, you can even get money back for purchasing comics on eBay with the eBay Bucks program if you live in the U.S.

I am not sure if they extended that to other territories or not. Okay, so a big con is already at a disadvantage in that regard.

$50 to be able to shop for comics at one of these bigger cons, or no entrance fee plus receiving eBay Bucks if I purchase on eBay? Hmmm...don't really think there's anything to think about concerning that.

Back to booth price. I know that dealer's prices are a bit heftier at bigger cons because of the costly booth space. Don't get me wrong, and I am not putting 100% of the blame on booth cost for the growing lack of good deals on comics that are shriveling up at bigger cons. 

Some dealers just don't have good deals whatsoever at a big or small con or where ever they're selling at. It's just a sad truth, and in this slowing down comic market, I think they seriously need to rethink that strategy.

I still do not understand the logic of many dealers that ignore eBay prices. If your New Mutants #98 comes back a CBCS 9.6, don't price it at $700 when CGC 9.6 copies sell within the $400 range on eBay.

Well, I suppose you can if you're not that worried about pricing comics to sell. Another thing that's beginning to irk me is when raw key comics at cons are priced the same as their CGC graded copies on eBay.

Sure, some of these dealers can argue that certain grades of raw key comics do sell around the same prices as their CGC counterparts on good ole eBay, and they would be correct. Here's the thing, though: 

The buyer didn't pay $50 bucks just to log onto eBay and the buyer most likely got eBay Bucks in return for their purchase. Comparing both venues as having the same buying advantages is unrealistic and pricing comics at cons to reflect that is just plain ludicrous.

Sure, you may have under-graded your comic and that I could possibly get a higher grade after submitting it to CGC. Then again, there's also the possibility that you over-graded the book and I could have it come back a lower grade than what I paid for. 

In short, if there's a raw comic advertised as a possible 9.8 for $500 at a con and a CGC 9.8 of the same key for $500 during a 10% eBay Bucks promotion, I'm gonna get the $50 eBay Bucks back instead of paying $50 just to be able to attend the con and purchase your supposed 9.8 raw copy for $500.

Plus, I'll save some more dough from having to get that raw copy graded by CGC or CBCS, not even including the shipping cost to and back. Newsflash: I most likely will get the better deal on eBay and that's where my dollars will go.

Not to mention that if one paid to attend two or three days at a big con! That could be around $80 to $100 just to attend.

That's $80 or $100, folks, money in itself that could go towards a nice key issue or some nice overlooked key comics. I know some of you are thinking I'm frugal as all annoying hell, and you're right.

I am and so are others. Well, they should be.

I do like some dealers personally as people, but I am going to go where I can find the best deals regardless. If big comic cons are no longer economical for me in finding good deals on comics, I won't attend them. 

I'd rather pay $13 or $20 bucks to attend a smaller con or just snag it on eBay if the better deal is online. If deals at smaller cons shrivel up, then I'll stop attending those as well.

Not to say that smaller cons guarantee finding better deals on comics, but it's less of a blow leaving a con empty-handed when it costs $13 instead of $50 for a single day. I did buy quite a bit of comics at Colossus Con this year and that's definitely a smaller con.

Not to say that I didn't have fun at Silicon Valley Comic Con either. I did and there sure is a lot to see. 

There was a gallery of movie costumes and props that were being auctioned off and that was really cool.





The sports almanac from Back to the Future, space ship from Starship Troopers, or Christopher Reeves' Superman costume from Superman III are awesome things to see for any movie fan. To be honest, though, if it weren't for Gerry seeing the sign and bringin' it to my attention, I would've completely bypassed the whole thing. 

Once again, my main focus is comics, and Gerry is pretty much the same. He's just a lot more observant than I am. Speaking of comics, I did end up getting two. Did I get good deals on them?

Well, I'm not sure. I did get an X-Men #28 and the 1st appearance of Banshee.

X-Men fan here, and always wanted this one. It is a raw copy and advertised as a FN/VF that I got for $80.

Okay, if I sent my raw copy to CGC or CBCS and it came back exactly as advertised, there is a CBCS 7.0 copy on eBay right now for $130 with a Best Offer option. On second thought, a new listing for an X-Men #28 CGC 7.5 just popped up on eBay for $95 and $15 shipping. Old label but it is still a better deal.

The cost of the actual raw comic of $80 plus the CGC or CBCS cost of grading and shipping to and back will be more expensive than just snaggin' either of the two on eBay currently.

However, if by some miracle the X-Men #28 copy I purchased comes back an 8.0 from CGC then I did get a decent deal on the comic. We shall have to see, but I seriously doubt the comic I got is that high.

In truth, I doubt the comic is even at a FN/VF and most likely a 6.0 FN or lower. I am expecting the worst when it comes to getting that comic graded.

The 2nd comic I got at SVCC was from the same booth and it was a Jimmy Olsen #135. It's the 2nd cameo appearance of Darkseid and is a CGC 9.4 copy.

I got it for $225, and it's not the most sought-out of comics currently. However, there is a bit more than just the 2nd cameo of Darkseid going on with this comic.

As most probably don't know, the early Jack Kirby work in Jimmy Olsen started introducing Fourth World concepts before it's main titles of New Gods, Forever People and Mister Miracle were published. Project Cadmus was first introduced as the DNA Project in Jimmy Olsen #133.

The debut of the Silver Age Guardian is in this Jimmy Olsen #135 and he is known as the James Harper clone. He was cloned by Project Cadmus, and if that sounds familiar to you, it's a prominent facility in the Supergirl TV series on the CW.

Actually, the character of James Harper was also on the TV show as a colonel in the U.S. Marines. I don't think he suited up as the Guardian in the Supergirl show though.

The original James Harper debuted as the Guardian in the Golen Age of comics and is the great-uncle of Roy Harper also known as Green Arrow's former sidekick Speedy. James Harper as the Guardian first appeared in Star-Spangled Comics #7 and was created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby.

So Jim Harper as the Guardian was a hero that had no super powers but had exceptional combat and tactical skills and a shield like another famous comic creation of Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. His supporting cast was a group of orphans on the streets of Suicide Slum called the Newsboy Legion.

When Kirby left Marvel and signed a contract at DC Comics during the early 70s, he resurrected the Newsboy Legion in his Fourth World story arc. Actually, the sons of the original Newsboy Legion became the heads of Project Cadmus and cloned James Harper.  

Although the character of James Harper did not appear as Guardian in the Supergirl TV series, it appears that Jimmy Olsen is taking up the mantle of the crime-fighting vigilante on the show, and you can somewhat see the influence from panel to screen. 

I don't think Jimmy Olsen ever became the Guardian in the comics, but you know how they like to twist things around in La La Land. It is kinda of a fitting move since the Guardian character was resurrected in the Jimmy Olsen title.



Despite most of Kirby's Fourth World stuff being passed up by the comic market at large, a lot of influences are starting to seep into live action media. I already mentioned Supergirl but Parademons, mother boxes, Darkseid, and Steppenwolf in the Justice League flicks? That's all from Kirby's Fourth World as well.

Anyway, those are the two comics I got, and if I'm going to be realistic, the cost of $50 should be tacked onto the prices of those comics. In reality, I paid $250 and $105 for the Jimmy Olsen #135 and X-Men #28.

If I want to be even more realistic, I'd even calculate parking and gas into those comic prices. Parking in the city is not cheap either, especially when a big event is going on. 

In all honesty, I'm not absolutely thrilled with the purchases I got at Silicon Valley Comic Con this year, but I'm not entirely distraught over them as well. I think I got a pretty good deal for the Jimmy Olsen #135, but I would've been better off buying a CGC X-Men #28 on eBay.

Still, I left SVCC wondering if bigger cons were even worth my time and with the revelation that they may very well not be. I asked two dealers that I personally like how SVCC was going for them 2 hours prior to the end and they said it was slow and bad.

They also said that last year was so much better. Perhaps other comic hunters are becoming more finicky as well and don't see the point in paying the expensive ticket prices at big cons when the deals on comics can't even compete with eBay or elsewhere.

Perhaps the over-saturated big comic cons won't even be viable venues for comic dealers to sell at in the very near future. Some dealers are starting to believe this to be true.

So the two vendors I spoke about earlier is Marc Newman of House of Comics and Harvey Doss, and they are bringing back the old school comic convention. Their con is happening in Berkeley on June 3rd and comics will be the main focus. 

No joke, this will essentially be a comics-only convention, so my NorCal and bay area brethren who are just all about comics, you most likely don't want to miss Berkeley Comic Con.

Click the link for more information if interested. I'm looking forward to it, and I do think it's a needed change from the so-called "comic" conventions in which half of the event isn't even about comics.

It only cost $5 to attend, and since the booth prices aren't ridiculously expensive, I'm expecting to find better deals on comics there. We shall see!






Monday, April 17, 2017

More Recent Comic Movie News Round Up April 2017


Nope, doesn't look like this madness is going to slow down anytime soon. Actually, it seems it's getting worse.

Comic movie news here, comic movie news there, this character has been cast, new development plans for this comic character in a TV show or movie, and blah, blah, blah. Sometimes the news is so small I don't even want to bother writing about it.

Then, there's the times where I just lump them all together in one post like this one here with the highly generic post title. So let's start off with our first example of comic movie news.

As already mentioned in the Total Comic Mayhem Google+ community page, it looks like Dolph Lundgren is making a return to comic book movies. Yep, in case you haven't heard, the once Ivan Drago villain of Rock IV and the first ever live-action Punisher actor has been cast in the upcoming Aquaman flick.

Who is ole Dolph playing? Uh, some guy named Nereus. 


Yep, this character is actually from the comics, but this Nereus guy is more of a recent villain in the Aquman mythos. After all, he is created by Geoff Johns and first appeared in the New 52 Aquaman comics. The exact issue is Aquaman #19 of the 2011 series.

If you're expecting a lot of appearances of this character in the Aquaman comics, don't be surprised if you end up being disappointed. He doesn't really show up all that much.

However, this dude does have a connection to Mera. Remember that Mera is royalty from the colony of Xebel, which has changed throughout the years. Originally, Xebel was another dimension that Aquman's queen and love originated from.

In current times, Xebel is an extradimensional penal colony inhabited by an ancient group of Atlantean separatists. Nereus is one of Xebel's greatest warriors and happens to be the king as well.

Mera was assigned to kill Aquaman, and when she returns to Xebel, Nereus thought she had fulfilled her mission and came back to take her rightful place by his side as queen. In the New 52 comics, Nereus and Ocean Master (Orm) do team up in a search for the Seven Seas so they can do a "rule the world" type of caper.

Gonna be interesting to see how this love triangle unfolds in the Aquaman flick. Well, depending on how much they actually stick to the comics. Does this mean that the colony of Xebel will be in the DC's cinematic universe?

Looks like there's a good chance. Anyway, if you're on the hunt for the debut of Nereus and prefer variants, there is the 1:10 MAD variant cover by Tom Bunk. The regular cover could have an estimated print order of around 53,700. The 1:10 cover may be around 5,370, more or less.

Alright, let's switch to the other side now. This is recent news, and I already posted this to the Google+ community as well, but Cable has finally been cast in Deadpool 2.

Yes, that Cable from the X-Men related comics, and it's none other than Thanos himself - Josh Brolin. Is this a shocker?



After all, he did play a great version of the younger Agent K in Men in Black 3 and getting that sour puss face and attitude that Tommy Lee Jones has mastered is Oscar worthy in itself. It's pretty clear that Brolin will jump into the role as Deadpool's straight man if we're talking about comedic performances here.


Another creation by Rob Liefeld, the character of Cable debuted in New Mutants #87. Later, it was retconned that the character showed up as a baby in Uncanny X-Men #201.

In the actual comics, Cable is the son of Scott Summers, also known as Cyclops and Madelyne Pryor, a clone of Jean Grey apparently created by Mister Sinister. His real name is Nathanial Summers and is from a possible future timeline, of which he was transported to as an infant and raised there.

When it comes to Cable and Deadpool first published meeting, there's nothing complicated or shocking as to which issue that happens in. They first met in Deadpool's debut issue of New Mutants #98. Here's the famous panels where these two meet.




Of course, as most most fans know, the two would be paired in the 2004 on-going Cable & Deadpool comic series beginning with issue #1. If you're considering hunting for that issue, the estimated print run for that comic is around
47,129. Have no doubt that 1st issue has heated up a while back.

So, quite a bit of history between these two characters and fans have been long speculating that a live-action pairing would happen sooner or later. Looks like it's sooner.

Squirrel Girl and the New Warriors TV show? Latest news is that it has found a home on Freeform. The question of "Who Should Play Squirrel Girl" is still being discussed by those who care.

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In indie news that have nothing to do with Marvel or DC Comics, it looks like another of Neil Gaiman's creative innovations will be a TV series. In the comic world, Lucifer Morningstar still has the Lucifer show over at FOX.

Now, the novel American Gods by Gaiman will be hitting Starz and the concept has been translated to a limited comic series published by Dark Horse that recently hit comic shops this year. There are several variants for this comic. You can most likely see most of them on ole eBay.

The trailer for this show was released recently as well. If you missed it, there it is below:





What do you think? Might be a hit, and the story was already an award winning novel prior. Looks pretty interesting from the trailer.

Alright, folks, I wish I had more time for ya, but that's it for now. Have a good one, be safe, and see ya next time.

Thursday, April 13, 2017

Undervalued and Sleeper Comics Part 16


While some of these aren't necessarily in the bargain bins, they are sleepers for the most part or in some aspect or another. What I mean is that they 're not widely-known for their key issue goodness.

Okay, well, one of them is actually and already known as a key but there is more than meets the eye of that issue except for a 2nd appearance. You'll find out soon enough what I mean by that.

The others are pretty much unknown keys and I will present some aspect to them that isn't that well-known. Hey, you could be like Max Rebo and like them low print regular covers instead of variants. There's two on here with low print runs and both hold first appearances.

For those who like 1st meetings in comics, especially if they pertain to 1st meetings that are going to happen on the big screen soon, there are a couple that involve a few Avengers' members and the team as well.

Alright, enough beating around the bush. You can go back to Part 15 if you missed it by clicking the link, or you can venture further into the cosmos for more undervalued and sleeper comics that you may or may not know of.







STAR-LORD #2
1st full appearance mainstream Yondu
1st appearance of Ravagers



No joke here. Most of us comic fans know that Yondu was an original member of the Guardians of the Galaxy and that team was from an alternate universe or timeline from the future on Earth-691.

Did that futuristic team cross over into mainstream continuity at times back in the day? Sure they did.

The original Guardians were in the Defenders comics like Giant-Size Defenders #5 and Defenders #26 through #29 as well as Avengers #167 through #177. Once again, the character of Yondu back then is not from Marvel's mainstream continuity of Earth-616 even though he travels and appears in the mainstream world of Marvel.

Here's how the actual movies do effect comics. By the time this comic came out in late 2015 (it has a cover date in 2016), we all know the 1st Guardians of the Galaxy flick had come out.

We also know that the MCU twisted things around a bit and will continue to do so. So, Yondu so far is not an original member of the Guardians like in the early comics when it concerns the cinematic world. Instead, he is a Ravager which are space pirates.

However, this actually does happen in the comics. Well, we can all safely say that this iteration definitely took the character of Yondu from the movie world and plopped him recently into Marvel's mainstream continuity officially.

So, officially, this issue holds the 1st full appearance of Yondu of Earth-616 (Marvel's mainstream continuity) and Marvel's comic book version of the Ravagers. Yes, pretty much all from the movies.

Not to confuse anyone or anything, but the character of Yondu...mainstream continuity or not...first debuted in Marvel Super-Heroes #18, a long with the rest of the original Guardians of the Galaxy from the alternate future timeline of Earth-691.


Just a little wackiness for some Guardians of the Galaxy comic book fans and how actual movies sometimes influence the actual comics. Not sure if too many people know about this one, and it is flying under the radar currently.

Then again, not really sure how many comic fans really care all that much, but the regular cover does have a lower print run.

Estimated print run of this comic is around 26,348 units sold to North American comic shops. There is a limited 1: 25 incentive retailer cover by Koi Carreon. Estimated print run for the incentive variant might be around 1,000 copies. February, 2016 is the cover date for Star-Lord #2.






WONDER WOMAN #182 VOLUME 1
1st appearance of Drusilla


Let's have some fun here and bring back a blast from the past. Who is Drusilla?

Well, she is an Amazonian character from the actual comics (obviously) that debuted at the very tail end of the Silver Age back in 1969. In her debut, she is an Amazonian messenger who was sent by Queen Hippolyta to bring Diana back to Themyscira and help them battle Ares.

Yes, this key issue debut was during the Wonder Woman era where she was depowered and learned how to become a master of martial arts from I-Ching. Still, doesn't mean it wasn't significant or had an influential impact.

Okay, so what's the big deal? No, I don't think her character is in the new Wonder Woman flick or the character hasn't been confirmed. However, the character of Drusilla was actually on the Wonder Woman TV series starring Lynda Carter.

If you're a young buck, you probably have little idea of what I'm talking about. No worries, but if you grew up during the 80s, you might probably remember reruns of the Wonder Woman TV show.

You might also remember this actress as well. Look familiar? 

She should. Before Richard Gere whisked her away from the drudgery of a small town factory life in An Officer and A Gentleman, Debra Winger was the TV version of Wonder Girl. Instead of Donna Troy, Wonder Girl on the  iconic show was named Drusilla.



Slightly influenced from the comics but definitely not the same character. In the show, Drusilla was twisted around to be the younger sister of Princess Diana.

Once again, not sure if the new Wonder Woman movie has this character somewhere on Paradise Island or what. With the Justice League trailer showing Amazonians getting into the fray with Parademons, there's obvious going to be quite a few of Amazonians in that cinematic world, and we will surely be introduced to some of them in this year's Wonder Woman movie.

Even if this character is dismissed by Hollyweird currently, it's still a bit of fun knowledge to have for a comic fan or even a Wonder Woman fan. I always thought Debra Winger was a hottie anyway but did not remember she was Drusilla in the Wonder Woman TV show.

Apparently, a Wonder Girl TV series was in the works back in the day, but Debra Winger apparently broke her contract and left the series. Might of been a wise choice for her, but she has carried the memory of that role with grace since.

In 1993, she did a cool interview with David Letterman about her early role on the Wonder Woman TV series.



 I think she took the walk down memory lane with grace and was cool enough to even suit up again as the character 17 years after.

Anyway, fun stuff. If you're looking for a not-so-well-known 1st appearance Wonder Woman key that's definitely under the radar and from the Silver Age, Wonder Woman #182 is still a sleeper and with the cover date of June, 1969.






WONDER WOMAN #151 VOLUME 3
1st appearance of 2nd Doctor Poison


Well, who was that mystery woman in the Wonder Woman trailer wearing that odd mask over her face? In November of last year (2016), it was finally revealed the masked woman is Doctor Poison.

Many speculated that it may have been Paula von Gunther, and even I was so unsure about it, I just shrugged my shoulders and said, "F--k it!" So, Doctor Poison is a Golden Age villain for Wonder Woman like Paula von Gunther and debuted in Sensation Comics #2.

The Golden Age version of Doctor Poison is Princess Maru, and she disguised her gender behind a bulky robe and mask as shown in the panel from Sensation Comics #2 volume 1. She was the leader of a Nazi spy ring, but we all know that the era for the Wonder Woman flick was pushed back to World War I.

Princess Maru had less than or around a handful of appearances during the good ole Golden Age of comic books. Now, it seems apparent that the Doctor Poison version in the upcoming Wonder Woman movie could be based more off the Golden Age version since the story takes place in World War I, but that's not to say that's entirely true or the film might not borrow elements from the second version of this Wonder Woman villain also.

The second version of this villainous DC Comics' character debuted during the New-Earth era and is apparently the unnamed grand-daughter of Princess Maru. This version definitely looks more sadistic and loonier than the goofier Golden Age version, and may have had more appearances than her predecessor in comics but not that many more. 

However, it does seem that the movie is kind of going with a different look of sorts for Doctor Poison as seen in the screen shot below. Who knows, though? Maybe they'll go with the baggy scrubs look like the Golden Age character has in other scenes when the villain is conducting poisonous experiments on whomever?



The 2nd Doctor Poison and unnamed grand-daughter of the original was created by Eric Luke and Mathew Clark. The original Princess Maru was created by Wonder Woman architects and comic book legends William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter.

So, once again and if you're a Wonder Woman fan and end up becoming a fan of Doctor Poison from the flick but can't afford a Sensation Comics #2, there is the 2nd version of the character that debuts in this issue here of Wonder Woman #151 volume 3. 

Yo, Max Rebo, you like regular keys with lower print runs, right? This one has an estimated print run of around 24,991 and there are also newsstand editions for this comic as shown to the left of this paragraph here.

The NS edition has no "Direct Market" type in the UPC box. 1st image to this listing is the direct market edition.

Newsstands during the very late 90s should have been distributed around 5% of the market. Newsstands might be roughly estimated around 1,200 to 1,300 for this issue. 

Adam Hughes cover keeps this issue out of most bargain bins, but it's not a 1st debut that's overtly on the radar of most fans or those investing in comics. Wonder Woman #151 volume 3 has the cover date of December, 1999.







MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE #5
1st meeting Captain America & Guardians of the Galaxy
1st Thing & Guardians of the Galaxy meeting
1st Yondu & Captain America meeting
2nd appearance of Guadians of the Galaxy



This one is already known for being the 2nd appearance of the Guardians of the Galaxy. It's not a sleeper in that regard but it still is not widely known for the other key issue goodness that this issue contains.

Those who have been keeping up with Marvel's comic movie news already know that the Guardians of the Galaxy are slated to appear in the mega anticipated movie, Avengers: Infinity War. Sure, it's not exactly the same team that Captain America will meet on the big screen in this comic issue, but it is the first time the Sentinel of Liberty met a Guardians comic book team ever in comics.

Even if it is not the same Guardians of the Galaxy team, the comic lore has to start somewhere, and it's not just Cap's first meeting ever with members of the Guardians of the Galaxy but the Thing is also first introduced to this team.



 

Not like the Thing is going to pop up in Infinity Wars but we also have the 1st time the character of Yondu who meets Captain America as well. Perhaps Yondu is less likely to meet the Avengers or Captain America, but it is certain that Cap will most likely meet the Guardians of the Galaxy in Infinity Wars or the flick after. 

Pretty much a sleeper and no idea if this one still deserves to stay that way or not. I suppose I'll let the Guardians of the Galaxy comic fans make that call themselves. Marvel Two-In-One #5 has the cover date of November, 1974.






THOR ANNUAL #6
1st Thor & Guardians of the Galaxy meeting
1st appearance of Brahl
Origin of Korvac

Continuing with 1st meetings between Avengers members and the 1st ever Guardians of the Galaxy team is Thor Annual #6, which the Thunder God himself meets the famous time traveling, space group. As mentioned before with Cap's intro to the team, sure, Goldilocks doesn't meet the Guardians team as in the one from the movies, but it is a historical 1st meeting between the two regardless.

Also mentioned before, there's a good chance Thor is gonna meet the Guardians on the big screen, and like we've already figured out, the comics and the flicks often differ. So, in the comics, Thor first met this iteration of the Guardians team and thus came to know of them via this issue here.

Here's how the Thunder God meets Yondu and the team.




So the very first time the Guardians of the Galaxy are introduced to Thor and vice versa in comics. Marvel Two-In-One #5 is referenced in this comic, and Avengers #167 will reference both of the books as you'll soon see in the next listing. Actually, the events in this issue is recapped in that Avengers issue.

The first ever meeting between Thor and the Guardians of the Galaxy team in Thor Annual #6 has the cover date of December, 1977.






AVENGERS #167
1st ever meeting Avengers & Guardians of the Galaxy
1st appearance of Corina Tivan


The 1st part of the Korvac Saga has the first time the Avengers team and the Guardians of the Galaxy team ever meet in comics. Once again, this is both teams.

Captain America already met the Guardians in Marvel Two-In-One #5, and Thor already met the team in Thor Annual #6. 

Just to throw out further 1st meeting information, both the Hulk & Doctor Strange first met the Guardians in Giant-Size Defenders #5. In this comic, Beast doesn't know who the Guardians are they have no idea who Hank McCoy is either.

Two of the members actually refer to him as a monkey which doesn't go over quite well. The strange thing is that Iron Man seems to know who the Guardians of the Galaxy are, but he doesn't seem to have met any of the members in another comic prior to this one.

I do think it's the first time Shell Head meets the futuristic super-hero team despite what he says to ole Beast. Cap does introduce Starhawk to Iron Man as shown in the panels below.


Well-known comic? I don't think so and think this is still a sleeper.

Undervalued? Might or might not be, depending on whether comic fans care about the first ever meeting between the Avengers and the Guardians of the Galaxy team. 

Corina Tivan is the daughter of the Collector. She ended up marrying Michael Korvac in the comics.

We shall see, and the date of January, 1978 marks the cover of Avengers #167 but this issue most likely hit the stands in late 1977.




So we have some 1st meetings between Avengers members like Thor and Captain America with the Guardians of the Galaxy. Even though I didn't spotlight it, the Hulk and Doctor Strange's first ever meeting with the team of heroes from space and time are also mentioned in this post.

If you happened to read over it or by passed it by accident, the Hulk and Doctor Strange first met the Guardians of the Galaxy team ever in comics in Giant-Size Defenders #5. As mentioned before, Avengers: Infinity Wars will have the Guardians of the Galaxy cross-over into the flick.

Again, it's finally been confirmed that the mysterious masked lady in the Wonder Woman trailer is Doctor Poison and there are three known versions of the character. Since Sensation Comics #2 is a pretty valuable comic and most likely not a sleeper anymore, I went with the 2nd incarnation of the character.

The 2nd Doctor Poison's debut is definitely more affordable than the 1st appearance of the Golden Age original, but as mentioned before, Doctor Poison's debut is a low print comic, even more so if we're talking about newsstand editions that you may wanna have some fun and hunt down at locals or comic cons. Adam Hughes Wonder Woman cover makes the issue even more enticing in my opinion. 

Alright, whether you already have 'em or wanna hunt 'em, have fun and be safe out there. Will see ya at Part 17 if you're ready for more sleeper and possible under-valued comics or key comics.