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Wednesday, August 16, 2017

Modern Age Spider-Man Key Comics Part 2


COPPER AGE
     MODERN AGE
    • Pt 1
    • Pt 2
    • Pt 3
    • Pt 4
    • Pt 5
    • Pt 6
    • Pt 7
    Continuing with this Modern Age Spider-Man key issues section, and we have finally hit Part 2. Part 1 dealt with some Carnage keys or debut, but during this particular time, David Michelinie would step down from the Amazing Spider-Man title and J.M. DeMatteis would take over.

    Previously, DeMatteis took over the Spectacular Spider-Man title after Gerry Conway. Speaking of Gerry Conway, it seems that a particular story he had done earlier in the Amazing Spider-Man title would be further extended upon and continued.

    Alright, if you just newly stumbled upon this, that navigation menu over the right will take you to any part of this Modern Age section of Spider-Man key issues you wanna go to. Navigation links will also swing you to different sections or "ages" to this Spider-Man key comics series like Silver Age, Bronze Age and Copper Age. 

    If you're good to continue, here's the next batch and hope you enjoy.





    AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #365
    1st appearance Spider-Man 2099 (preview)

    I remember when Miles Morales was just starting to get a lot of hype. Heck the character only debuted in 2011, so it wasn't that long ago.

    Anyway, I remember Miles was trying to be hyped up for a few reasons - first black Spider-Man and also first Latino Spider-Man. 1st Latino Spider-Man?

    I do remember scratching my head and then pondering, What about Miguel O'Hara? Well, he is of Irish and Mexican descent, so I would think that would count.

    Whatever! Some were fans of Miguel O'Hara as Spider-Man 2099 and some were like, What the f--k? Then again, it was pretty much the same for Miles Morales as well. 

    Either way, I like the character and Miguel O'Hara and the whole Spider-Man 2099 thing was created by Peter David and Rick Leonardi.

    This 1st of Spider-Man 2099 is in a 5 page preview contained in this comic as noted conveniently on the cover. This is sneak preview of the 1st issue, so if that is a problem for ya like it is for me, you may consider Spider-Man 2099 #1 as the 1st full appearance of Spider-Man 2099.

    Another great thing about this particular issue of Amazing Spider-Man #365 is that it is the 30th anniversary issue of the Amazing Spider-Man. Holy gimmick hologram cover too.

    Some say that there are error copies of this comic and wouldn't doubt it. Seems like everything is being pimped as an "error" of some kind, and once again, in a hobby that has grading standards that scrutinize "defects", I think "error copies" based on printing/manufacture defects basically move the goal posts.



    Just my opinion, though, and there sure seems to be a collector's niche for them. Don't know much about error copies for this particular issue if there are any, so not gonna bother talking about them. 


    Amazing Spider-Man #365 has the cover date of August, 1992.





    SPIDER-MAN 2099 #1
    Origin of Spider Man 2099 begins
    1st Lyla, Tyler Stone & Alchemax
    1st 2099 Marvel Comics series



    Just my opinion but I don't agree with previews that basically "preview" the contents of a 1st issue. The main purpose of those pages and panels were created and intended for this comic issue, not necessarily the preview.

    In logical fairness, the only function of the "preview" was to promote this 1st issue. Despite that arguable debut consideration, this issue is full of comic goodness.

    In a historical sense, Spider-Man 2099 is the first comic to kick off the whole 2099 line of comics that Marvel put out during the 90s. That's right, the re-imagining of only a few Marvel characters such as Doctor Doom, Punisher, and Ravage happened at first before the imprint expanded it's line to Fantastic Four 2099, Ghost Rider 2099, Hulk 2099, X-Men 2099, and X-Nation 2099 just to name a few.


    Officially, this 2099 universe in Marvel Comics was designated as  Earth-928 but this world was actually revealed in the Superior Spider-Man Goblin Nation arc and Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 3 #14 to be in the distant future of Earth-616. Therefore, it is part of mainstream now according to this retcon.

    Like mentioned before, Spider-Man 2099 kicks off this universe, and the series does have its own supporting characters and villains that surround the character of Miguel O'Hara and this world of Future Marvel. 

    The origin of Miguel O'Hara concludes with issue #3 of this comic series and begins with this issue. Cover to this comic is a gimmick red foil stamped thing.

    Word has it that these foil and chrome gimmick covers were not easy to manufacture or produce and had quite a bit of errors during printing production back in the day. Have yet to seen one for this issue, and I'm pretty sure the print run over-all was pretty large for this issue back when.



    While I was originally going to include Spider-Man 2099 key issues in this series, I have declined to do so and figure it would be best served with it's own key issue series. After all, Spider-Man 2099 does have his own mythos with its own cast of characters and villains.

    Although sharing the name "Spider-Man", I don't think they are necessarily all that important to Peter Parker as Spidey. Could be wrong but that's that.

    Do not get me wrong here: I will revisit the Spider-Man 2099 key comics later on in its own key issues series for sure, but until then, only Amazing Spider-Man #365 and this issue go on here.

    Spider-Man #2099 #1 has the cover date of November, 1992.







    AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #375
    1st appearance of Ann Weying

    The first appearance of Ann Weying, and if you don't know much about the character of Venom, you may just think, Who? Ann Weying is the ex wife of Eddie Brock, who left him after the whole news report scandal. Talk about a girl who stands by her man.

    This character would later become the first She-Venom. I wrote about this issue back in the Venom key issues series in 2014 and it does have the gimmicky foil cover that seemed to wow comic fans during the 90s.

    The comic has seen a little bit of heat since 2014, and like I figured, the character of Ann Weying will reportedly be in the Venom flick starring Tom Hardy. Many are already speculating that Ann may Venom-out and become She-Venom.

    Dunno about that, but her debut as She-Venom has already seen heat as well. Once again, this character popped up in a Spider-Man title, and I won't be rehashing the Venom key comics series in this beast.

    If you're curious to what else is on there, you can click that blue link in the paragraph above. So, no Lethal Protector or Venom's other titled series comics here.

    Same with Carnage. Anyway, here's how the CGC Census looks for this issue at the time of this writing. I have no idea which error printing the CGC Census is referring to.





    March, 1993 is the cover date of Amazing Spider-Man #375, and there is apparently a foil manufacturing error for this issue. Just for shits 'n giggles, I'll show ya what's being error-fied when it comes to these comics that should've went straight back to pulp.


    Error-Copy Off-Register

    Regular Cover Non-Error


    So, basically, the noticeable printing mess up is the the top headline "Giant Sized 30th blah blah blah", the Marvel Comics and Amazing Spider-Man logo and even the gold foil around both Venom and Spidey. 

    I think the degree of error varies. There are some covers that look more messed up than others, and the key word to that sentence is "messed up" as some just look ugly as...

    Just for reference, here's another example pertaining to this very issue. CGC supposedly puts some into the "Qualified" realm of grading.

    The Off-Register example is a Qualified slab, but the cover error without the foil is a Universal label. Confusing and wonky to me.

    Seriously, though, up to you and it is for certain that these are much more rare than the regular direct or newsstand copies. Might be fun to look for. Might not be to your liking as well, but this story ties in with Venom: Lethal Protector.






    SPIDER-MAN UNLIMITED #1
    4th appearance of Carnage 
    Part 1 to Maximum Carnage x-over event 
    1st appearance of Shriek
    New Spidey comic series




    This bad boy already appeared on the Carnage key issues list not done too long ago. Well, back in 2014 to be precise.

    Carnage does appear in flashback in Amazing Spider-Man Annual #26, but it is only a one panel cameo and not in the main story of that comic's tale. Therefore and most likely CGC, CBCS, or Overstreet will note this as the 4th appearance of Carnage if they ever care to since he does show up in the main story.



    The Maximum Carnage x-over event was a highly anticipated fan favorite at the time. It was 14 parts that ran through the first two issues of Unlimited Spider-Man, Web of Spider-Man #101 to #103, Amazing Spider-Man #378 to #380, Spider-Man #35 to #37, and the Spectacular Spider-Man #201 to #203.

    This issue is Part 1 to the x-over event, and first introduces Shriek. She is a villainess who has the power to manipulate sound in various ways and a definite foe of Spider-Man.

    Doppleganger, Shriek, Demogoblin and Carrion would team up with Carnage to cause, well...Maximum Carnage. Shriek, Carnage and Doppleganger would team up a few times after this x-over event also.

    Venom, Ben Reilly Spider-Man, and a few other heroes like Captain America would team up in the series to try to combat Carnage and his super villain alliance. Shriek is pretty much linked to Carnage and the two are lovers or were.


    How's this issue on the CGC front according to its census?


    So CGC actually recognizes the first appearance of Shriek in this issue. Overstreet so far does not.

    Well, okay, to be fair, I am looking at the 46th Edition, not the newest one. That reminds me that I need to scrounge up some time to get one before the next comic con, but no confusing whether Shriek makes a full appearance or not in this issue 'cause she does. Here's how she debuts and first meets Carnage in this issue:



    Anyway, doesn't seem to be debut that most are looking for currently or in a big bad way. Considering that Venom is happening, I am wondering how many  characters linked to Venom or Carnage, symbiotes or non-symbiotes, will make it to the big screen if the franchise ends up being successful.

    Spider-Man Unlimited #1 has the cover date of May, 1993.








    WEB OF SPIDER-MAN #117
    Begins the 2nd Spider-Clone Saga

    "BEGINNING THE SAGA THAT WILL ROCK THE SPIDERVERSE!"

    As the cover states, this issue sure rocked something, and even though issue #116 sees the return of Ben Reilly as an unnamed clone, this issue of #117 officially begins the 2nd Clone Saga. The two actually meet up again in this issue and have a weird go-around.

    This issue definitely references and states that this dude who looks like Peter Parker is the clone created by Jackal that Spidey faced in Amazing Spider-Man #149. Here's the panels that reference them below.



    Once again, a pretty over-looked key issue in the Saga of Ben Reilly and Scarlet Spider. Ben's debut as Scarlet Spider in Web of Spider-Man #118 is no longer under the radar or over-looked.

    The comics that were part of the Power and Responsibility story arc had flip books that extended or told in better detail the origin of the Spider-Clone. This issue should have that flip book.

    I'm not sure what the different covers to this issue are exactly. Some are calling the foil covers direct markets and the regular non-foil ones newsstands.



    I'm scratching my head at this because the UPC for the non-foil covers or "Orange" covers state that they are "Direct Market". So, no clue when it comes to these, but if you know be sure to educate me in the comments section.

    I'm not even sure if the "Orange" non-foil cover copies have the flip book or not. CGC designates them as "Collectors Editions" and not newsstands as some sites label them.

    Here's the screenshots of what I'm assuming are the regular copies and the "Collectors Editions" in the census so far.



    Once again, if you know for a fact what's up with these, be sure to educate us all in the comments section. Web of Spider-Man #117 has the cover date of October, 1994.






    SPIDER-MAN #51
    Name of Ben Reilly revealed
    1st appearance as Ben Reilly


    Furthering the return of Peter Parker's clone and setting up the eventual debut of Ben Reilly as Scarlet Spider, I think giving the clone an actual identity would be a good idea, no? Well, the creatives of this story arc thought so too.

    I believe this is the actual issue where Parker's clone actually refers to himself as Ben Reilly. Yes, that is Ben as in "Uncle Ben" and Aunt May's maiden name of Reilly.

    How do readers find out about this? Well, it's all done through talking and basically the poor clone is talking to an unconscious and very ill Aunt May.


    Definitely has some issues being a clone an all. So we find out that he named himself Ben Reilly, and I think it's an important issue.

    Not saying it's a huge or major key but important enough for the character. He does suit up to go help Spider-Man against the Traveller but I think that takes place in Part 4 of the Power and Responsibility story that was told in Spectacular Spider-Man #217.





    Same thing for this issue, and it came with a regular cover and then a special collector's edition with a gimmicky foil cover. For this listing, I put the non-foil cover next to the comic title and notations, and I shall put the foil cover image right here after all the CGC Census screen shots.

    Anyone know if the regular copies also came with the flipbook or just the "Collector's Edition"? Just wondering and would appreciate it if someone who did know saved us from this suspense.

    Fan of the character? Definitely a comic to think about getting while it's still cheap and under the radar. October, 1994 is the cover date of Spider-Man #51.





    Not gonna feature these bad boys in the above section but I am going to mention them. Amazing Spider-Man Annual #27 is the debut of Annex, a pretty minor character associated with Spider-Man, and that issue also reveals his origin too.

    He started off as a villain and then became an ally, but he doesn't have that many appearances over-all. I believe his 2nd appearance is in Spider-Man Unlimited #3 but not entirely sure.

    Created by Jack Harris and Tom Lyle, Annex is a technologically based character and has an exo-skeleton suit of armor. This gives the character the usual hum-drum enhancements of increased strength, speed, stamina, reflexes, reaction time, coordination, agility, dexterity, balance, and endurance.

    His civilian identity is Alex Ellis and he was a U.S. Army soldier who fought in Desert Storm and lost his leg during the war. Back home, he volunteered to test out the Annex unit as a potential weapon.

    I am tightening up on the minor debuts of characters to be featured, However, I already featured the debut of Leila Davis and said I would bring up her debut as Hardshell.


    So the character debuts as Hardshell in The Lethal Foes of Spider-Man #1 limited series, and this limited series was a sequel to The Deadly Foes of Spider-Man limited comic series. Even though a Spidey fan, I don't personally consider that a huge deal but who knows? Some just might who love collecting Spider-Man comics.

    Hardshell does have a technological suit of armor and joined the Sinister Syndicate along with Rhino, Boomerang, and Vulture in The Lethal Foes of Spider-Man #1. Since I mentioned Spider-Man Unlimited #1 already and featured it above and that issue does kick off the Maximum Carnage cross-over story line, I might as well feature the other issues to this story arc.

    Just remember that the series starts off with Spider-Man Unlimited #1. The 2nd Part is in Web of Spider-Man #101.


    Web of Spider-Man #101 ASM #378
     
    Spider-Man #35




    SSM #201
     
    Web of Spider-Man #102
     
    ASM #379


    Spider-Man #36 SSM #202

    Web of Spider-Man #103

     
    ASM #380 Spider-Man #37
     
    SSM #203




    Spider-Man Unlimited #2





    And since I mentioned it already, here's the cover image to What If? #30. Yeah, I actually think this issue should've been featured in the Bronze Age section of this Spider-Man key issues series also.

    However, here it goes and will be mentioned again for the 2nd time in this post. This is one of the What If tales for Spidey that obviously happened in mainstream continuity.

    It's not the last one either. As mentioned before, Reilly does assume the mantle of Spider-Man and that tale was also told in a What If issue before it actually happened in later mainstream Spider-Man titles.

    Just some fun knowledge to see how this character has progressed throughout the decades or, more appropriately, the "ages". Some grew up on this stuff, while others sneered at it during the time.

    Alright, that concludes Part 2 of this Modern Age Spider-Man key comics section. Yes, this will continue with a Part 3 and most likely a Part 4, 5, and 6.

    This is not finished and Part 3 will be coming as soon as possible. Thanks for tuning in, appreciate the comments, the shares, the likes and for droppin' by.

    See ya soon for more Spidey key issues in the Modern Age. Have a good one all, stay safe, and have fun huntin' or dumpin'.


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    Thursday, August 10, 2017

    Modern Age Spider-Man Key Comics Part 1


    COPPER AGE
       MODERN AGE

      Pt. 1
      Pt. 2
      Pt. 3
      Pt. 4
      Pt. 4
      Pt. 6
      Pt. 7
      Ah, the dreaded Modern Age section to this Spider-Man key comics series, which has some major and minor keys. Some would even argue if some are even keys.

      Yes, I've dreaded getting to the Modern Age, despite being "Spidey" Modern Age comics. What a vast era and did anyone come up with another "Age" to call it yet?

      Hell, I personally think we should call it the "Plastic Age" since most containers are made of plastic in this age, the rise of the third-party grading companies and slabbing valuable comics in plastic, the fake ass (plastic), artificially created rarity of variant covers, and I could go on but I won't. CGC was founded in 2000 and PGX in 2002.

      Don't know if 2000 or 2004 or what year should mark that era. Wizard Magazine was hyping them CGC sales on eBay during the time though, but that's in a hobby sense. What about actual comic books?

      Was there a recognizable shift in actual comics, some monumental characteristics that made marks in the world of comics? Well, digital comics, rehashes of old story events, widespread gender and race swapping of already iconic characters (spin-off piggybacks), constant continuity reboots or "soft boots" and 25 or more different variants for a single issue. 


      Of course, I'm just talking about Marvel and DC Comics. Indie publishers seemingly are pumping out more original or fresh ideas and concepts in comics.

      Anyway, dunno, and we're still in the 90s when it concerns this series. So in continuing the madness, here's the issues kicking off this monster.





      AMAZING SPIDER-MAN ANNUAL #25
      1st Venom solo story

      Overstreet notes this as the 1st Venom solo story, and it does indeed have Venom in a solo adventure called "Truckstop of Doom". That's right here, no Spidey in it or a team up with any other Marvel hero or villain.

      This story just has Eddie Brock as Venom and a fateful encounter with a certain nice couple who graciously gives Brock a ride. They end up stopping at a rest stop where a gang has taken the restaurant hostage.

      Hence the word "fateful".  Well, let's see, dumb ass gang bangers and one Eddie Brock with a Venom symbiote? Sounds like a great ass whooping.

      Even with the Venom movie news in full swing and Venom is on the radar of most every Spidey fan, collector, comic investor and speculator, this is not a widely-known issue. It is currently under the radar in a pretty big bad way and even CGC doesn't yet recognize or note it.

      I did do some extra checking, and as far as known Venom appearances in comics, this does seem to check out as Eddie Brock's first solo story as Venom.


      Might definitely be a yet unknown comic to consider for any Venom fan, and the cover date is September, 1991 for Amazing Spider-Man Annual #25.







      AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #360
      1st cameo appearance of Carnage

      Carnage does appear very briefly in this comic, but he does not fully show up. You do see half of his face, his hand, a bit of his symbiote goop in a few panels on one page. Although finally named, it's really not enough to constitute a full appearance and most likely why it's not according to Overstreet.

      When I first wrote about this comic back in 2014, it was simmering up at that time. Back in 2014 and when I first wrote about this comic then, a CGC 9.8 sold in July for around $50 bucks.


      Fast forward to today? CGC recently sold August 6th for $107.50 smackers. 

      The most recent sales before that from June 17th to July 26th of 2017 sold around the $170 to $180 range. They were all fixed priced sales though.

      Anyway, let's see how this crazy symbiote makes his cameo in this issue.




      And there it is! Eh, deserves to be a cameo in my opinion. 

      CGC Census for this comic is as stands at the time of this writing. There are Australian Editions with the $1.80 price variant also, and I do have a cover example for ya.





      Do not think CGC Census has any recorded data for the Australian Editions of Amazing Spider-Man #360. Here's the a cover example for ya anyway and just showing ya that they do exist out there in this great wide comic collecting world.

      You can click the image to get a bigger one if you want to get a better view. Looks like the Australian Editions or "price variants" were also newsstands with the UPC code.

      This issue does have a regular U.S. newsstand edition as well. This listings cover example is a direct market edition since they were the preferred distribution channel by this time. 

      Amazing Spider-Man #360 and the first cameo appearance of Carnage has the cover date of March, 1992






      Web of Spider-Man #86 comic
       WEB OF SPIDER-MAN #86
      1st appearance of Demogoblin

      We finally get the first appearance of Demogoblin in this issue, and it's where the demonic entity separates from Jason Macendale, Hobgoblin II, and either becomes it's own manifestation or truly reveals itself in all its evil glory. Yes, the demon did possess Hobby for a while and gave Macendale super strength since he couldn't get his grubby paws on the Goblin Formula.

      Not really sure this demon helped all that much when it came to besting Macendale's foes.

      From Web of Spider-Man #48 to this issue, Jason Macendale had been fighting the demonic entity within him. Like how Peter Parker rid of the Symbiote that tried to take him over, the Hobgoblin II was able to expel his own parasite, resulting in the creation of a whole another monster.


      Here's how this demonic exorcism of sorts plays out in this daring issue of Web of Spider-Man #86.






      Can't say that ole Macendale didn't deserve the torment. I mean, what else did he expect in making a deal with a demon? 




      Obviously newsstand copies of this issue exist as the main example image is one of them. During this time, newsstand distribution was said to be in-between 15 to 10 percent. 

      1990 had 15% distribution and 1995 had 10% concerning Marvel Comics, at least. In-between those numbers or maybe even just at 15%?

      Definitely a widely over-looked and under the radar debut, and I'm assuming this issue may or might still be in some dollar bins out there in the wild. I think I may have to take a looksie myself the next hunt I'm on at Stockton Con.

      Web of Spider-Man #86 has the cover date of March, 1992.







      AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #361
      First full appearance of Carnage

      Finally we have the first full appearance of Carnage in Amazing Spider-Man #361, and the hype has already affected this bad boy in CGC 9.8 grades. This issue is the most sought out concerning Carnage key issues and related first appearances so far.

      If you've got this one unslabbed, may be time to submit it to CGC or CBCS if you think it's a high enough grade. If you've got an unslabbed mid-grade to VF, you may want to wait for a higher peak to dish this sucker off.


      Then again, if you're a fan of the symbiotes and this symbiote in particular, you may just want this 1st Carnage appearance and key issue comic just to have it in your own personal collection or PC. Nothing wrong with that either.

      Even though it's not noted up above, this issue does have the 1st meeting between Spider-Man and Carnage, and it also has their first scrap or fight. The panels below shows how this happens in this very issue:


      There does seem to be quite a bit of copies submitted to the ole CGC Census concerning this issue, but don't be fooled. The total numbers have newsstand editions and direct market editions mixed in with each other.




      Might as well as show the census for the 2nd printing also. There's also an Australian edition that's being toted as an Australian Edition with the different price of $1.80 on the cover.

      Might as well show the CGC Census for those as well, and I think I'll put them covers up here just in case there are collectors out there interested in them and would like to have a reference in helping to spot them easier.

      U.S Direct Edition 2nd PrintingAustralian Edition



      The 1st full appearance of Carnage in this issue of Amazing Spider-Man #361 has the cover date of April, 1992. Cover image for this listing is of a newsstand edition.









      WEB OF SPIDER-MAN #87
      2nd appearance of Demogoblin

      Demogoblin and Spidey do meet for the first time in the previous issue of Web of Spider-Man #86. They even have a go or take a crack at each other for a tick and get separated for a moment.

      The two crazy kids do meet up again for the 2nd time in this issue but they do not have another crack at each other. Instead, this issue mainly deals with the drama of the Rose and it is Part 4 of 6 to the story line "In the Name of the Rose". 

      Actually, Demogoblin only shows up in 7 panels on 2 pages in this issue, but when it comes to a 2nd appearance, are we really gonna nit-pick that much about it? Especially when it's a hugely over-looked and not even remotely a big 'o deal yet?

      Key issue? Arguably, but I definitely think it's a minor key when it comes to the market's conscious currently. Then again, Speedball's debut was a minor key not that long ago and so was Squirrel Girl's, Cloak & Dagger's debut, Mr. Immortal & the 1st appearance of the Great Lakes Avengers, Damage Control's intro, Paragon/Her/Ayesha, and whoever else.

      Then again, those characters got some Hollyweird play. Would be strange to see Demogoblin considered for the big or small screen.

      Not unless Sony thinks symbiotes and demons would make a winning combination. Anyway, no surprise that this has a low CGC Census and not because it's widely rare or anything.



      Well, who knows? It could be since this comic isn't really seen as anything worth grading or keeping in great shape to eventually get graded.

      Take those two above sentences with a grain of salt. Someone is probably hoarding issue #86 and #87 somewhere out in this great wide world.

      Cover image for this listing is a direct market edition, and Web of Spider-Man #87 has the cover date of May, 1992.






      AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #362
      2nd appearance of Carnage
      1st meeting of Venom & Carnage
      1st Venom & Carnage fight

      Nobody is noting this issue just yet as Carnage's 2nd appearance. Not Overstreet and not CGC. Right now, this comic is still not all that well-known. There is demand for it, because it has Venom and Carnage.

      The cover is misleading. It's not a Venom and Carnage team up, but a Venom and Spider-Man team up against Carnage. 


      Venom and Spider-Man do fight at the very beginning of this issue though. So for those who like to witness a good ole Venom vs. Spidey scrap, this issue has it.

      Publishing date is May, 1992, making this a Modern Age comic. I'm still considering this comic a sleeper and prices haven't really moved for this comic since I first brought it up in the very small Carnage key issues series done back in 2014. 

      Universal 9.8s can still be snagged for around $50, and that's a shame that this key comic is still over-looked or neglected. Let's get into that a bit before we look at the CGC Census.

      So, despite this being the 2nd appearance of Carnage, there is more than meets the eye to this comic. As noted above, it is the first time Venom and Carnage meet, and it is also the first time Venom and Carnage fight.

      Don't get me wrong here: I'm not saying this is the first time the Venom symbiote meets Cletus Kasady. It's not, but it is the first time Eddie Brock as Venom meets Cletus Kasady as Carnage. 

      As for the first time in comics that the two fight, it's more of a scuffle than an all-out brawl. They would have more of an all-out brawl in Amazing Spider-Man #363.



      So, those aspects of this very comic are probably not that well-known out there in collector, comic investing, or comic speculating land. Alright, here's some CGC Census information about this particular over-looked issue.







      2nd printing has the cover in silver like issue #361. As shown above, there are Australian Editions. Despite the cover date to the Australian Editions being a later date than the U.S. cover dates on the covers, the indicias for the Australian newsstand price variants do have the same dates as U.S. copies. CGC notes them on their census pages.

      That goes the same for issue #361 and #363 concerning Australian newsstand editions or price variants. Alright, let's rock out the covers below:


      Newsstand Edition 2nd Printing
       
      Australian Edition




      Cover date for the regular U.S. editions of Amazing Spider-Man #362 is May, 1992. Australian has the cover date of August, 1992 but with the Indicia date of May, 1992. Cover price for the Australian price variant is $1.80.







      AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #363
      3rd appearance of Carnage
      Venom vs Carnage battle

      Just like the 2nd appearance of Carnage, nobody cares enough to note this sucker as the 3rd appearance of Carnage. At least, for now, that is. 

      Carnage isn't yet that known outside of comic geekdom, but I'm sure the Venom movie will make the character even more popular. Just look at what Guardians of the Galaxy did for Rocket Raccoon. Now all the kids love that character and most of comic collectors are gunning for his first appearances.

      So Carnage just may get even more popular after the movie hits in 2017. Hopefully, they don't kill him off right off the bat. 


      The previous issue had a pretty short encounter between Venom, Carnage and Spider-Man. That issue is the first time Eddie Brock as Venom and Carnage met face to face in comics and a small little scuffle, but this issue of Amazing Spider-Man #363 has the two symbiote's real battle.

      It may be their first real battle, even though Spider-Man is also involved in the fray. Here's a little teaser of the scrap between Spidey, Venom and Carnage in this issue:



      Just like issue #362, this comic is still very much a sleeper and overlooked.

      CGC 9.8s are still selling for around $50 bucks, highly under the radar at the moment and we all know that Carnage is the main villain of the Venom movie and the two will most likely have an awesome big screen battle. I mean, that's a definite that fans will always anticipate no matter how many Venom franchise flicks and reboots happen over the years.



      I could not find any cover examples of the Australian newsstand edition or price variant. I think it may be $1.80 also.

      Don't know much about those either. As far as know so far, there are regular U.S. direct market and newsstand editions and the Australian price variants for this comic.

      June, 1992 is the cover date for Amazing Spider-Man #363 and the 3rd appearance of Carnage. 








      INFINITY WAR #1
      1st issue to Infinity Gauntlet sequel
      1st brief Doppelganger (Spider-Man)


      Besides the namesake of this limited comic series having "Infinity War" in it, there is a debut in this issue that's very much related to Spider-Man. Remember, Doppelganger? Well, more specifically, the Spider-Man Doppelganger?

      In this issue, Spidey wasn't the only one to have  a doppelganger. There was a shitload of doppelgangers for a lot of Marvel characters in this issue.

      I think the Spidey doppelganger one is one of the few from this issue that actually carried over into the comic series of it's main original counterpart. This evil duplicate of Spider-Man was created by Magnus, the evil and future persona of Adam Warlock.

      Here's how this creature first debuts in this issue.





      The panel above is how he winds up later and near the end of this issue. Does not really show the fight between Spidey and Doppelganger. Doppelganger's debut is more of a cameo since it's basically 3 panels.

      Doppelganger dies but the character would be resurrected not very long after this issue by Demogoblin. Yes, we are getting to that creature's debut as well.



      Before that, here's the CGC Census of this comic so far. Great limited series, and I do love Starlin's work on all the Infinity stuff.

      I'm also a fan of Ron Lim's work on the cosmic side of comics as well. Hope to see Mr. Ron Lim this year at Stockton Con.


      Infinity War #1 has the cover date of June, 1992. 










      SPIDER-MAN #24
      3rd appearance Demogoblin
      Demogoblin dons new costume
      2nd Doppelganger or 1st full


      When it comes to the Spider-Man comic series, I seriously do not know of many keys or even any debuts that are worthwhile to even mention from that series. Do not get me wrong here as I do love the series.

      Well, okay, I love all the early issues with Todd McFarlane art, and I even do like many of the stories also. I'm just saying that when it comes to the actual mythos or introducing a fan-favorite villain or supporting character, the Spider-Man comic series is a bit lacking.

      I'm not even saying that this issue should be considered hugely important or sought-out. Sure, it has the 2nd appearance of the Doppelganger who is killed by Macendale as Hobgoblin in this issue. The end will see Demogoblin pick up the body of Doppelganger in order to revive the creature later.

      If you're a fan of the Demogoblin and just want the character's early appearances then this surely one to get. Demogoblin does receive a new look or costume as well in this very issue.

      Another not so well-known bit of something-something concerning this issue is that it does have the first Hobgoblin vs Demogoblin fight or battle in this issue. Demogoblin's new look isn't all that great to be honest, but I guess they needed something to distinguish Hobby and Demo apart from each other.



      This is not an issue with Todd McFarlane art. Actually, it is Mark Bagley.

      Okay, so I believe that McFarlane stopped with issue #16. Eric Larsen did the cover and pencils for issue #15 but began his short run with issue #18. Bagley's work on the series was even shorter and began with this issue and only lasted until issue #26.



      Not exactly a well-known Spidey key issue, but it is also a Hobgoblin and Demogoblin key comic as well.

      Mark Bagley pencils and Mark Bagley cover. Speaking of covers, Spider-Man #24 has the cover date of July, 1992.





      Man, these things are taking up more time and taking longer and longer to do. When I start the intro, I have a rough idea of what I'm going to talk about in the outro to each part, but by the time I reach the outro, I completely forget what I was going to talk about.

      Alright, I just remembered. I know a few people have talked about labeling the next "Age" of comics, and I'm surprised it has not been done yet. Then again, I'm not really that surprised either.

      Has there been anything of significance to mark another "Age"? Some consider the Copper Age part of the Modern Age that began in the mid 80s.

      I consider Copper Age starting in 1984 and lasting until 1991. 1992 then begins the Modern Age for me. What happened in the Copper Age?

      Rise of indie comics or publishers, more serious/mature or darker tones and content in comics from writers like Alan Moore and Frank Miller, anti-heroes taking center stage (Wolverine, Punisher, Lobo, Deadpool, Spawn, Venom, Grendel, Crow, etc). The Bronze Age did lay the groundwork for these qualities to happen, but the Copper Age saw the fruition of all this.

      So, really, what would have different distinctions of the comic industry now to mark a different "Age"? I've already noted grading comics and getting them slabbed, the obvious intent of artificial rarity in 1-and-whatever ratios for variant comics, and the direct intent of comic publishers to pump out multiple variants en masse. 

      As for actual comic content like concepts, stories, and characters, what's being done differently that is significant in the industry? Don't really have time to get into that, so I'll leave it at that.

      Part 2 will be coming in the near future. Have a good weekend all.

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