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Friday, October 6, 2017

Dr. Doom Key Comics & Other Issues Part 2

We are at Part 2 to this Dr. Doom key comics series, and although this may be the first time you're reading it, this is the 2nd time I wrote it. Perhaps, it'll be better the 2nd time around.

Gonna keep this intro short. If you missed Part 1 just click that link.

1st Marvel villain solo feature series
1st appearance of Rudolfo Fortunov

A great perception among speculators and quite a few comic investors is that villains are not good comic investments. I believe that whenever there is a debate, Ultron's first full appearance in Avengers #55 is almost always brought up to support it.

Personally, I could care less. I do love me some villains and absolutely Dr. Doom.

Some villains don't make great villains for other superheroes, but Dr. Doom is easily the exception when it comes to this. Sure, most know him as the iconic Fantastic Four foe, but Doom has caused a lot trouble for a variety of heroes and can easily cross-over.

I've always said this about comic villains, but the great ones really make our heroes shine.

Without a great character to put a so-called "hero" to the test and drive them to the breaking point, they and their adventures in the pages in whatever comic book would basically be meh. Alright, let's get to this issue here.

The first issue to Astonishing Tales has the 1st time a Marvel villain got his or her own on-going solo feature. No surprise that it is none other than Victor von Doom (iconic villain).

Who woulda thunk it, right? An all-out villain like Doom as the main protagonist of his own solo feature?

This is the Bronze Age though and early Bronze Age key as Astonishing Tales #1 came out in 1970. Joker headlined his own comic series in 1975 that lasted only 9 issues.

Astonishing Tales did also expand on the mythos of Dr. Doom and his Latveria back ground. Hey, bad guys need bad guys of their own that hit close to home, and in Victor von Doom's case, his baddies are the Fortunovs.

Doom does get revenge on Vladimir for being responsible for the death of his father and obviously takes over Latveria, but Vladimir does have descendants. No surprise that they would try to reclaim their royal birthright.

So Rudolfo Fortunov is the first descendant of Vladimir to appear in comics, and, of course, he is head of a rebellion against Doom. Rudolfo and his rebellion would continue to be Doom's adversaries in most of the 8 issues that his solo feature ran in Astonishing Tales.

In terms of Doom and his back story, there really is a richness that would absolutely make a great film completely independent of the Fantastic Four, as weird as that sounds. I surely hope that they do draw from these type of stories concerning Doom.

I mean, revenge, rebellion? Got a solid basis right there.

How to make a tyrannical villain, who basically wants to rule the world and believes that the world under his rule would be better place to live, a likeable character for the audience to care about? Three words for that: Alexander the Great.

It can be done and I hope it happens. For the most part, this is a key that's historical for Marvel and also for Doom who is still considered an all-out villain. He is not an anti-hero like the Punisher nor Namor are considered. Well, at least, not yet anyway.

Also for the most part, this key comic is pretty over-looked. Not saying that 9.8s are cheap. Just saying for the most part. 

Here's some data to consider, and yes, I'm starting with the CGC Census and then some GoCollect stats for this book.

I could not find examples of pence copies for this specific cover but I think they exist. Issue #2 through #7 have them and the price is 1/- on the cover. Go figure that I also could not find them for issue #8 as well.

So, definitely a must-have for Doom fans. Specubating or investing in comics? All I gotta say is that villains are being considered for movies like Sinister Six, Joker, Harley Quinn, Gotham City Sirens and recently Dr. Doom.

The nerdo-o-sphere has yapped about a Thunderbolts movie, and Suicide Squad, though not very good, already sort of paved the way. Catwoman did get a flick quite a bit before that band of villainous miscreants. 

Astonishing Tales #1 has the cover date of August, 1970 and hit the stands around May, 1970.

1st cameo of Cynthia von Doom
Last issue to Doom solo series

When it comes to Dr. Doom stories, this is always mentioned as a classic or a must-read. I believe it does set up a recurring concept concerning the villain and does humanize him a lot more.

In terms of Cynthia von Doom and her debut in this issue, don't get too excited as it is only a one panel cameo. Here it is below.

Yes, Cynthia is Doom's mommy and we see her for the first time in this issue. Don't get excited about a first full as her earlier appearances that follow this issue are all obviously in flashback and only in a one panel cameo.

They also recap the events that took place in this issue here. So, every year, Victor von Doom gathers enough strength to battle the Devil, later retconned to be Mephisto, or his minion of choice, for the soul of Cynthia von Doom.

This is the last issue to Doom's on-going feature in the comic series. Not sure if that was planned or if it was because the concept of a Marvel villain being the main protagonist of story feature bombed at the time.

Don't care, but this story is a classic and pretty important to the character of Doom. After all, he would seek powerful sorcerers or sorceresses quite often to become more powerful himself so he can win back his mother's soul from Mephisto. 

Morgana le Fay would one. For the most part, I think this comic is a hugely over-looked Dr. Doom key issue currently but that is my opinion.

So, come up with your own conclusion concerning this issue. Another early Bronze Age key and important to the character of Doctor Doom. This issue also has the 3rd appearance of Bobbie Morse, the character that would later become Mockingbird.

 Astonishing Tales #8 has the cover date of October, 1971 and was released in July of the same year.

1st appearance of Zorba Fortunov

Once again, we have another Fotunov. Concerning Latveria and Doom, the Fortunov family are major characters that bring mischief to Victor von Doom quite often.

I think most would probably sweep this character into the minor bin currently. Sure, maybe as a Fantastic Four key over-all, but I would digress when it comes to this being a "Dr. Doom key".

The Fortunovs are not only tied to Doom's origin, but they are also tied to the very nation that Doom took from the family. There is, or was, a major feud between Doom's family and the Fortunovs prior.

Zorba Fortunov is the son Vladimir and brother to Rudolfo.

No surprise that Zorba is also part of a rebellion in Latveria, against the tyrannical Doom to reclaim his families royal right. With the Fantastic Four's help, Zorba even succeeded in doing so, and he would even prove to be more tyrannical than Dr. Doom.

The issue where that happens in coming up soon, but this issue, Fantastic Four #198 has the cover date of September, 1978 and was released June, 1978.

1st appearance of Kristoff Vernard
Death of Zorba Fortunov

I love this John Byrne cover. Not saying it's a classic or anything. Just saying I've always liked this cover.

Okay, let's recap a little bit here. So remember Zorba that we just talked about in the listing right before this one?

Well, I did mention that his rebellion was successful in ousting one Victor von Doom from the throne of Latveria. Yep, and that happened in Fantastic Four #200.

Well, as mentioned before, Zorba proved to be even worse than Doom. Fantastic Four Annual #15 saw Latverian revolts against Zorba begin to happen.  

You can read all about it over at in the "notes" section at the bottom. Gonna sidetrack a bit here.

John Byrne's run with Chris Claremont helped to revitalize the X-Men as we all know. However, John Byrne also has a fan-favorite run on Fantastic Four in which he wrote, penciled and inked.

Byrne also made more strides in humanizing the villain, and we can see that in this issue. Although arrogant and a narcissist, Doom does seem to care for the people of Latveria and has a strange sense of loyalty and soft spot.

So Latveria is in turmoil since Zorba took over. Doom swallows his pride and seeks the help of his arch enemies, the Fantastic Four.

They return to the nation and a woman loyal to Doom updates the Fantastic Four on what a mistake they all made by ousting Doom.

So Doom may be a cunning liar in order to steal powers (Silver Surfer and the Beyonder) and he may be seen as a tyrant, but according to this story, Doom kept his people safe from crime and didn't let his people go hungry.

Another depiction of Doom's strange sense of loyalty is when Zorba kills the woman and Doom is pissed about it, as she was under the "personal protection" of him.

So the Fantastic Four help Doom to regain Latveria, and Doom has a showdown with Zorba which ends with the death of Vladimir's son. This issue debuts Kristoff Vernard, and he is the young boy of the mother who was under the "personal protection" of Doom in this story.

Byrne also had Doom adopt Kristoff as his ward, and the character would end up becoming somewhat a foe for Victor von Doom and even impersonate him. That happens later, however.

Released in July, Fantastic Four #247 has the cover date of October, 1982.

1st Kristoff Vernard as Doctor Doom

The great Dr. Doom dead? Well, his Doombots thought so and did some really funked up stuff to his ward Kristoff to make him think that he was the real Dr. Doom.

As mentioned earlier, Kristoff Vernard assumes the mantle of Dr. Doom and keeps the villainous legacy alive and well but first he needs a bit more information before he can attempt the task at hand.

Yes, Kristoff is still a boy but it matters not to the Doombots. So they transfer the memories of Victor von Doom into the brain of Kristoff and this is a good excuse to retell the origin of Dr. Doom.

I think Byrne did change some things in the origin. Doom's face was but scarred in the college explosion.

I think origins before had that moment as the time Victor's face was horribly disfigured, but not in this origin. In this origin, his face was horribly disfigured when he first put the Doom mask on.

Uh, yeah, they didn't wait for it to cool off first. Okay, so Kristoff, as a little kid, gains the memories of Dr. Doom and assumes the mantle in this issue.

For the record, he only shows up as Doom in four panels, one of them fully, two on a computer monitor, and the other is just a profile shot of his face in the Doom mask. The Fantastic Four would confront Kristoff as Doom in the next issue of #279 and discover that he's just a kid.

He's a kid who now happens to believe that he is the real Dr. Doom and thus Victor von Doom. Yes, this would cause trouble not only for the Fantastic Four but for Doctor Doom when he returns.

Just another notch in his mythos. Hey, even villains sometimes wish to have a successor and Kristoff is just that for Doom. 

May, 1985 is the cover date for Fantastic Four #278.

Dr. Strange earns title of Sorcerer Supreme
Extended origin Cynthia von Doom

Was going to put this in the outro but decided to feature it. As mentioned before, Doom is always looking for other powerful sorcerers to help him win back the soul his mommy.

What better sorcerer than Dr. Strange, yeah? Actually, the Aged Ghengis has summoned all the most powerful sorcerers to a gathering that would test and determine who would be the Sorcerer Supreme.

And there will be two left - Dr. Strange and Doctor Doom in a magical battle for the ultimate honor. If you're a fan of the magical and mystical side of Marvel, this is definitely a read for you.

Doctor Strange is the winner and I believe this is the very comic where he earns the title of Sorcerer Supreme. Strange has to fulfill a wish or "boon", and Dr. Doom seizes the opportunity to get the new Sorcerer Supreme to help free the soul of his mother.

So, off to Mephisto's domain and the two would team up to battle him but not before an origin of course. After all, Doctor Strange does not know the story of Cynthia von Doom, and at this time, I don't think readers knew too much about it at the time either.

Well, we know that she made some kind of pact and the devil has her soul but Marvel Graphic Novel #49 goes into quite a bit more detail. The devil is in the details, after all.

I think this is the first extended origin of Cynthia von Doom which reveals that an evil Baron had tormented the gypsies, especially Doom's parents. I'll let the actual comic tell the story a bit.

Alright, jumping in here as required, and as we all can assume, Doom betrays Strange and makes a bargain with Mephisto. Yep, for the life of his mother or so it seems on the surface.

However, it seems that mommy has a problem with that.

Sorcerer Supreme and Doom then team up against the evil of Mephisto in a pretty bad ass battle. Did you recognize the artist?

Some Mike Mignola goodness here. Really great read and this comic actually sheds a lot more light on Cynthia von Doom for the first time and thus expands on Dr. Doom's origin as well.

I won't ruin the ending or what happens next for those who are Dr. Doom or even Doctor Strange fans but have yet to read this graphic novel. Quite a bit going on as the origin of how Dr. Strange becomes Sorcerer Supreme and a full Cynthia von Doom origin.

 Marvel Graphic Novel #49 has the cover date of July, 1989.

1st appearance of Doom 2099 (preview)?

Okay, so Overstreet and most likely the third party grading companies note this as the first appearance of Doom 2099, which is actually Victor von Doom from Earth-616. Yes, this is also an 8 page preview.

Some believe a preview should count and some don't. This is a comic book for sure, but it also does state it is a preview in the table of contents.

The preview contains the first 8 pages that was originally created and primarily intended for the 1st issue of Doom 2099 #1. I don't like previews that do this, and I usually consider the issue that the actual preview was intended for to actually tell a story and not sell the issue the "1st full".

I know! I know! All that cameo, minor, brief, 1st full bugs the crap outta me too. 

Okay, I'm lazy so I am going to do this all in the same listing. If you actually read the post, which is why I actually write stuff under the listing heading, you won't miss much. If you're a lazy ass specubator who just looks at the title and image...oh, well.

So Doom 2099 #1 goes here, and I consider it the full appearance of Doom 2099. Now, this might be highly arguable and even debatable but I also consider this Doom's 1st ever self-titled on-going comic series.

If you know this series and read it back in the day, you might see where I'm coming from with this. If you don't, you may be scratching your head or maybe you could care less.

Humor me a bit while I explain my position here. Most of the 2099 characters are different than their original counterparts because the timeline is in the future.

We all know that. Miguel O'Hara in 2099 took up the mantle of Spider-Man and Jake Gallows is the Punisher in 2099.

However, the running mystery in the first half of the Doom 2099 comic series was whether this Doom in the future is another dude or the original. Like I said, I'm going to spoil it and we learn in Doom 2099 #25 that this Doom in 2099 is not a different guy but is fact the original Victor von Doom.

Yes, Victor von Doom from the mainstream universe of Earth-616 but just in the future and obviously doesn't start off remembering much of his past. He does remember it in issue #25 of Doom 2099 though.

Panels above from Doom 2099 #25

So if it's the same character, isn't Doom 2099 technically the first on-going comic series that bears his name in the title?

Not to say that Doom 2099 #1 is a great spec or anything. I wouldn't doubt if that issue was over-printed back in the day. 

Yes, there are newsstands of the first issue of Doom 2099 and supposedly newsstand distribution would be around 15 to 10 percent back in 1992 according to Chuck over at Mile High.

Doom 2099 did last like 44 issues or close to that. Marvel Comics Presents #118 is cover dated December, 1992 and came out 21 days before Doom 2099 #1.


I originally had this book featured above but changed my mind and will put here in the outro as an honorable mention. Iron Man #150 does have the 1st meeting between Doctor Doom and Morgana le Fay.

As mentioned in Part 3, Doom and le Fay did have a daughter together in later comics. In this issue, Doom seeks out Morgana to somewhat help concerning the whole having mommy's soul ordeal, and Doom does recap his yearly scraps with the Devil in this issue.  

I highly doubt that most of these are that well-known concerning Doom's mythos. Just because they are not that well-known does not mean they are not good or they are not significant to the character.

Gonna keep this outro short. Gimmie a break. I had to rewrite all this again from scratch. There is a Part 3. Just click the link to continue this Dr. Doom key issues series. Click the Part 1 link below if you missed that.

Monday, October 2, 2017

Dr. Doom Key Comics & Other Issues Part 3

I am publishing the 3rd Part to this Dr. Doom key comics series before the 2nd part, because I had all three parts done and suddenly Part 2 in my dashboard was erased. Actually, it duplicated this Part 3 post.

Regardless, something went haywire and I have to rewrite Part 2. It will not be as in-depth as I originally wrote it. Anyway, pissed off as all hell.

1st cameo of Valeria von Doom (Richards)

I originally was going to skip over this character as she is confusing as all hell. According to wikipedia's explanation, creators Chris Claremont and Salvador Larroca never got to resolve the story line of the character before Rafael MarĂ­n and Carlos Pacheco and Jeph Loeb took over Fantastic Four and changed things around for the Valeria von Doom, also known as Valeria Richards.

So, Valeria first appeared as Valeria von Doom and under the code name Marvel Girl. It was believed that she was the child of Victor von Doom and Sue Richards, who was somehow the Baroness von Doom, meaning she had somewhere and sometime married Dr. Doom in this alternate universe.

Actually, it was in an alternate future. Things get quite kooky concerning this character concerning that, and I am no expert when it concerns Valeria Richards or her comic character evolution.

Alright, here's how she debuts in this issue, along side an adult Franklin Richards and one Baroness Sue von Doom.

I will try to explain the best I can and she doesn't end up being Doom's daughter at all. In fact, she is the 2nd child of Reed and Sue Richards. 

I was going to do this all under the same listing but I fear it might be super confusing. I decided to section them off, so the next issue in this key issues list will get to the 1st full appearance of Valeria.

Yes, this character is confusing but her future self is actually connected to her as Valeria Richards as we shall get to in Part 3 to this Dr. Doom key issues series. Bear with me here and hopefully I'll be able to explain it.

March, 1999 is the cover date for Fantastic Four #15 volume 3.

1st full Valeria von Doom (Richards)
1st named Marvel Girl

Okay, since Fantastic Four #15 only had Valeria in basically just one page, her next appearance in this very issue should definitely be considered a 1st full appearance. It is kinda funky because she just pops up in the story in a what the hell kind of moment.

In her debut, the Fantastic Four do venture to the future reality, but this issue sees Valeria debut in the actual Marvel mainstream continuity. Here's how she literally just pops up.

Of course, a threat comes a long and then Valeria gets into her super powered mode. I believe this is the first time she reveals that her superhero name is Marvel Girl, and her first name is obviously revealed in this issue as well.

I am going to write this again, but it should be noted that this Valeria before the retcon does have super powers. As stated in the panels above, she has the ability to Time Dance, psionic powers, and can nullify Franklin's reality manipulating powers.

The reason why has them labeled as "potentially" is because after the retcon, Valeria did not seem to possess any super powers. However, she did retain an intellect that is on par with her father.

We will get to this retcon in the next issue, but Fantastic Four #20 from the 1998 series has the cover date of August, 1999.

Origin Valeria von Doom
Resets character of Valeria Richards

Let's try to dive into this beast here and this issue is actually really important for the character of Valeria von Doom and Valeria Richards. Yes, it does explain somethings.

Actually, it does explain the origin of Valeria Richards as wel as her so-called future self. Let's take a look at the comic and then I'll connect some things to hopefully make it less confusing.

So that scene refers and connects that Valeria was actually the very baby who died during child birth in Fantastic Four #267 volume 1. Apparently, she did not die but Franklin sent her "some place else" where she grew up as Valeria.

Okay, let's see how this character gets reset. This is actually the origin of the character as Valeria Richards.

So as the world is threatened by Abraxas, the green dude talking about his nullifier, Franklin Richards does his thing and brings back Galactus.

So apparently there is climatic battle and all is well and good after. Adult Valeria has disappeared, but the end of the issue reveals this...

Sue Richards is pregnant again and not just a little. She is very pregnant and almost to term.

Yes, Franklin Richards did have something to do with this. No matter how I put this it's going to sound wrong but Franklin made his mother pregnant again and put Valeria back into her womb.

Important key to both Valeria von Doom and her as Valeria Richards, Fantastic Four #49 from the 1998 series has the cover date of January, 2002.

Birth of Valeria Richards
Origin of name

Yeah, I know most can't stand baby debuts for a character but this one is pretty unavoidable since her character was changed and revamped before Chris Claremont and Salvador Larroca could resolve the initial and original story line for the character. The character was reset in issue #49 and this obviously carries it out even further.

Valeria is born in the mainstream continuity with this issue, and does have her 1st full as Valeria Richards. Well, in the issue of Fantastic Four #50, those creatives did give us a sneak peek of Valeria in the womb of Sue Richards.

Yeah, they did go there and here are the panels of her in that issue before she is even born.

Panels from Fantastic Four #50 1998 series

I am not sure how they explain Sue Richards ever becoming the Baroness Doom and being married to him. Actually, I'm not sure if they ever explained that yet so far.

I dunno, I don't wanna get into the whole mind twist of it all. Fantastic Four #54 volume 3 does have the FF reluctantly call in a favor from none other than Doctor Doom himself to help Sue with giving birth.

Using a combination of science and magic, Doom is able to deliver the baby safely with a condition of course. This condition of Doom's was being able to name the child.

What does he name Reed and Sue's daughter? Valeria, of course. I believe Fantastic Four #54 is her first appearance as Valeria Richards. Well, unless you want to count the scene in Fantastic Four #50 where she is a baby in Sue's womb as shown prior.

Here's her full debut as a Richards in issue #54 after she is born. 

Dooma! That made me laugh. I would've done it so I guess I'm crass and without style.

Alright, did my best in trying to explain this character and the comics that reveal all these changes and resets to her. It is revealed in the Unthinkable story line that Doom did cast a spell on Valeria and made her his "familiar spirit" and could see from her eyes.

So the future character of Valeria as Marvel Girl from the future is still connected to Valeria Richards in the present timeline. I am not sure if they ever explained how she became a von Doom or why she claimed she was the child of Doom and Sue Richards.

Don't think I really care. March, 1999 is the cover date for Fantastic Four #15 volume 3.

Death of Valeria
New mystical armor

John Byrne did humanzie Victor von Doom more, but the truth of the matter is Doctor Doom is still an all-out villain. You can try to make him have a lost love, a ward he takes in, but in the end, Doom doesn't want to share in ruling the world. He wants to rule it himself.

A man with this kind of ambition has to be ruthless in order to gain that amount of power in order to achieve such a feat. There is a reason why this story line is called Unthinkable too.

Here we go: Remember, Dr. Doom's childhood love Valeria? Well, at the end of this story Victor von Doom reclaims his villainy and told the only woman he ever really loved that he made a pact with powerful demons in order to gain immense power.

 What was the bargain or sacrifice? I think you know.

Badass! Valeria's flesh is turned into a new mystical armor for Doom. This issue also expands on the story of Valeria and Doom.

In Fantastic Four Annual #2, a representative of the university sought out Victor for a scholarship. This comic changes that and it was a representative of the U.S. military instead.

Ruthless villainy welcomes ye back Dr. Doom and who doesn't love a ruthless comic villain? Fantastic Four #67 volume 3 has the cover date of May, 2003.

Extended origin of Doom
Origin of Cynthia von Doom 

Books of Doom #1
Books of Doom #2
Books of Doom #3
Books of Doom #4
Books of Doom #5
Books of Doom #6

Gonna change the format up a bit, and I'm going to start this off by saying this over-looked limited series is for Dr. Doom fans. I mean, fans who love the character and want to know more about the extended back story to him, his mother, father, his childhood love, and the rivalry with the royal Fortunov family.

I do not know how spec worthy this comic series is and don't really care. It's a really good read that sheds a lot of light on the character and was written by Ed Brubaker.

If you like extended origins with a lot more detail and are a fan of Dr. Doom, this series just may be one to get for the pure enjoyment of reading. Speculating? Not so sure.

Cover dates are through January, 2006 to June, 2006 for Books of Doom #1-6.

1st cameo of Caroline le Fay (issue #1 in 2 panels)
1st full Carolina le Fay (issue #2)

Here it is and why I even added Iron Man #150 as minor key in this series. Created by Cullen Bunn and Will Sliney, this is Doctor Doom and Morgana le Fay's daughter and Caroline le Fay debuts in this little known comic series that stars Misty Knight and Valkyrie in a group called the Fearless Defenders.

No surprise that Caroline le Fay takes after mommy and daddy and is a villain in the Fearless Defenders comic series. 

Fearless Defenders #1 also has the debuts of Annabelle Riggs and Mr. Raven, who are main supporting characters for the comic series. I believe the series was cancelled with issue #12 and the new team of Valkyrior was first assembled by Valkyrie in Fearless Defenders #3.

It is a fun comic series. I am becoming a fan of Cullen Bunn's work in comics.

A bit about Caroline le Fay? Okay, here's the freeze-dried version of the character. As mentioned before, she is the child of Victor von Doom and Morgana le Fay.

The notations beside the cover states that she has a 2 panel cameo on a single page in issue #1 and she is called by her last name. Here's how her cameo debut or intro goes down in issue #1 of Fearless Defenders.

Issue #2 of the series has her full appearance in 9 panels on two pages. Caroline is fully named in issue #2 as well and here's how the character appears in Fearless Defenders #2 below. 

I know I did not mention this comic above in the listing's title, but I might as well since I'm already here with the character. I always try to give a little information for those who may not know yet.

The character's origin is told in Fearless Defenders #4AU and explains that Doom and Morgana got it on sometime during his many travels to the past. Morgana sent the child to the future (present) and she was raised by her followers as shown in her origin below.

Bam! We've got mommy and daddy issues with this one.

Am I saying this is a major Doom key or should be one? Nope! All I am saying is that these comics hold the debut of Dr. Doom's child who does end up being a villain in the main Marvel universe. Caroline le Fay is Doom kin.

Issue #1 has two 1:50 variant covers by Mike Deodato Jr. and Milo Manara. There is also a Skottie Young cover.

Deodato variant
Manara variant
Young variant

Issue #2 has this 1:50 variant cover by Marcos Martin. Pretty cool retro-looking cover. Actually, I like both the regular and variant covers for issue #2.

The Deodato and Manara covers for issue #1 are pretty cool as well. As most know, I'm not a big variant fan. Doesn't mean that I don't make exceptions, but I put throw them on here in case some do like them.

April, 2013 is the cover for Fearless Defenders #1 and was on sale in February. Fearless Defenders #2 has the cover date of May, 2013 and was on sale in March of the same year according to information gathered by Mike's Amazing World.


Most of these comics were going to be talked briefly about in the outro of Part 2. Obviously, I decided to "expand" it to a 3rd part.

Many of these are bargain bins. Many aren't on the radars of most collectors and I think most don't even know about these comics or even that Valeria Richards is connected to her future self of Valeria von Doom or Marvel Girl. What about Doom naming Reed and Sue's 2nd child?

Valeria Richards does have a pretty close relationship with Doom. He genuinely has affections for her, but then again, we saw what he did the woman he named the child after.

I am going to stop here with the request, but as always, I am open to suggestions if you think a "key" relating to Doom should be on here. Marvel Super-Heroes Secret Wars #12?