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Monday, May 23, 2016

Marvel The Collector & Elders of the Universe Key Comics

Recently got a request to do a key issues list about the character of the Collector. I thought just doing a key comics series about the Collector would be too short, and remembered Gerry talking about the Elders of the Universe a while back, mainly Ego the Living Planet.

So, I thought might as well combine it all into one deal. This will mainly be a 1st appearances list for the most part. Well, I dunno, will have to see what I find or don't find.

Quite a few of the Elders of the Universe don't really have origin keys, and I'm sure I won't be able to find the 1sts for all of them. I admit that I don't know much about these characters, but let's see what I can dig up.

And we're off! This is Part 1.

1st appearance of the Collector
Giant-Man becomes Goliath
Goliath joins Avengers

When it comes to the Elders of the Universe, the first to pop up in Marvel Comics was the Collector. His real name is Taneleer Tivan.

He is billions of years old and also a powerful being that wields a part of the Power Primordial a long with his fellow Elders. The Power Primordial are remains of energies left over from the Big Bang.

The Collector began collecting artifacts and life forms in an attempt to keep his sanity after the death of his wife Matani Tivan. In his 1st appearance in this issue, he attempts to collect the Avengers.

Although the Collector is the first Elder of the Universe to appear in comics, the Elders of the Universe concept was not revealed in this issue. The whole concept of the Elders of the Universe and the Collector being one would be revealed in later issue.

We shall be coming to that issue shortly. The Collector was created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, and The Avengers #28 has the cover date of May, 1966. As we all know, Benicio Del Toro plays the character on the big screen.

THOR #132
1st cameo appearance of Ego the Living Planet
1st appearance of the Grand Commissioner  
1st appearance of Sir Porga
1st appearance of Recorder 211

Another creation of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby is Ego the Living Planet. Once again, he was introduced before the concept of the Elders of the Universe was brought to light. Ego first appears in Thor #132, and it's still a pretty over-looked 1st appearance in comics. Gerry recently got a high-grade one. You can read the story about his Thor #132 copy.

Although still noted as his first appearance, Ego only shows up at the very last page of this issue. He does announce himself as Ego, but he appears only on the very last page which is a full one.

Here's his introduction into the world of Marvel Comics.

So, CGC notes this as a 1st cameo appearance currently. Overstreet still notes it as a 1st appearance. I think they'll come around soon enough.

This issue also has 1st appearances of some minor characters like the Grand Commissioner and Sir Porga.  The Grand Commissioner is the leader of the Regillians, a space-colonizing race of aliens.

Although a villain, the Regillians would seek the help of Thor against an entity that was more fearsome and threatening than them. That entity is of course Ego!

Sir Porga is another minor character that was an evolved pig created by the High Evolutionary.  He was an ambassador to the humans and an underling to the High Evolutionary.

Recorder 211 is a monitoring robot for the Regillians. He is sent by them to accompany Thor to the Black Galaxy where they find Ego. Recorder 211 would later gain sentience and escaped deactivation.

These are minor key notations that due remain neglected. Not a huge deal, and Thor #132 has the cover date of September, 1966.

THOR #133
1st full appearance of Ego the Living Planet
1st Thor vs. Ego battle
1st Ego on cover

Overstreet does not note this issue as the 1st full appearance of Ego, but CGC does. Overstreet only notes this as Thor vs. Ego in the current guide. When the new 46th Edition is released, they might change it for this issue.

They are right in that this is the first battle between Thor and Ego the Living Planet. They first meet in issue #132 obviously.

Not an overly expensive comic yet in some NM grades. A CGC 9.6 NM+ copy sold in April for $364, and there are rumors Ego is suppose to appear in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.

So far there are two Elders confirmed in Marvel's Cinematic Universe. Thor #133 has the cover date of October, 1966.

2nd appearance of the Collector

As far as I know, this is the 2nd appearance of the Collector even if no one is noting it as such currently. I think Overstreet and CGC only notes it as a Collector appearance currently, and CGC notes that it has an ad for Iron Man #1 & Sub-Mariner #1.

In this 2nd appearance, the Collector comes back to once again collect the Avengers. This time he's got the Mighty Thor on his side since he made the Thunder God drink an obedience potion.

Avengers #51 has the cover date of April, 1968.

THOR #155
2nd cameo appearance of Ego the Living Planet

If we're going by today's standards of appearances, Thor #155 has a one panel cameo of Ego the Living Planet. I'm noting it a 2nd cameo appearance, but it could just be considered a cameo and nothing more. I wouldn't get all excited about it either way.

As far as I know, no one is noting the 2nd appearance of Ego and the only character I can think of at the top of my head that has been designated a "2nd cameo appearance" is Darkseid. So take the notation here about this issue being labeled a 2nd cameo appearance in the future with a grain of salt.

It may just stay an "Ego appearance" or an "Ego cameo". Who knows? Thor #155 has the cover date of August, 1968.

THOR #160
2nd brief appearance of Ego the Living Planet?
1st meeting of Ego & Galactus
1st battle between Ego & Galactus

In the intro splash page within Thor #134, which also has the 1st appearance of the High Evolutionary, it shows Galactus saying that he must venture into the Black Galaxy to eat up whatever he can. The Black Galaxy is where we first find Ego in Thor #132.

In this issue Galactus finally makes it the Black Galaxy and confronts Ego the Living Planet. Good ole Galactus and Ego have a brief conversation about who is more powerful and then they begin to prove it.

Thor #160 is the 1st time Ego and Galactus meet and brawl. Ego shows up in 5 panels and on three pages in this issue. One of those pages is a glorious full page piece of art as you'll see below and it depicts the two cosmic being's first meeting.

The meeting erupts into a battle between the two, and the two strips above are on the same page. The bottom panels are on a different page and ends the story for this issue. The story and battle will continue in the next issue of Thor.

Since other appearances have been labeled "brief" for 6 panels and 3 pages, I'll go by those examples.

Thor #160 has the cover date of January, 1969.

THOR #161
2nd appearance of Ego the Living Planet?
Ego vs. Galactus continues
1st meeting and battle between Thor & Galactus

Ego shows up in 8 panels in this issue and on five pages. One of them is not clear since Galactus is pummeling him with meteors or whatever. No idea if this is enough for a full appearance or not, so just gonna label it a 2nd appearance.

So Ego and Galactus continue their battle with each other, and it appears Galactus is getting the upper hand on the Living Planet. That's until Thor comes in and battles Galactus for the first time.

This issue does hold the 1st published time readers see Thor and Galactus cross paths in comics. There's another unclear panel of Ego as well. Galactus hurls the Thunder God and Ego moves himself so that Thor lands on the surface of the Living Planet.

On the surface of Ego, Thor then transfers energy from his hammer and blasts Galactus. The Eater of Worlds tucks tail and runs.

Saving Ego's ass, the Living Planet thanks Thor and grants him and his companions sanctuary as they are marooned on Ego. Thor #161 has the cover date of February, 1969.

1st brief appearance of Grandmaster?
1st brief appearance of Squadron Sinister

Like the Collector and Ego, the Grandmaster's first debut did not mention anything about the Elders of the Universe and the concept had not been given birth just yet. Grandmaster shows up in 6 panels and on four pages in this issue.
In this issue, the Grandmaster pits the Avengers against his league of champions known as the Squadron Sinister. This team consisting of Hyperion, Dr. Spectrum, Nighthawk, and Whizzer was modeled off DC's Justice League of America.

Hyperion was a homage to Superman, Nighthawk modeled off of Batman, Dr. Spectrum is a Green Lantern homage, and the Whizzer was Marvel's version of the Flash. The Squadron Sinister show up in two panels, but one of the panels of them is at a far distance and they're all in shadow.

Don't know if that really counts. The last panel of the story clearly shows them though. The Squadron Sinister and the Grandmaster were both created by Roy Thomas and Sal Buscema.

The Grandmaster is a cosmic game player who has the obsession of pitting two teams against each other. Jeff Goldblum has been cast to play the Grandmaster in Thor: Ragnarok, and Avengers #69 has the cover date  of  October, 1969.

1st full or 2nd app. Grandmaster?
1st full appearance of Squadron Sinister
Origin of Squadron Sinister
1st full appearance of Nighthawk

The Grandmaster might make his 1st full appearance or 2nd appearance in Avengers #70. He shows up in 9 panels and 6 pages. 

This issue has the members of the Avengers battle the members of the Squadron Sinister. Most members of the Squadron Sinister didn't have too many appearances in later comics. Nighthawk is one of the exceptions.

They did battle the Defenders as well, and Nighthawk changed his ways and became one of the good guys eventually.  Grandmaster appears in the next issue of the Avengers as well, but not sure how often he appears. Issue #71 may be his 2nd appearance or simply a cameo. Not entirely sure.

So far, CCG nor Overstreet is noting  the Grandmaster's 1st or 2nd appearance. Avengers #69 is noted as a 1st brief appearance by Overstreet and a 1st cameo appearance by CGC. Avengers #70 is noted by CGC as the origin of the Squadron Sinister, and Overstreet notes issue #70 as the first full appearance of Nighthawk.

Sellers are aware of issue #69 being the 1st appearance of Grandmaster and are starting to note it on eBay. However, issue #69 just might be a 1st brief appearance. Will have to see how that unfolds in the future.

Avengers #70 has the cover date of November, 1969.

When it comes to Ego's 2nd appearances,  I am definitely no expert in what current standards of today constitutes a brief, first, or first full appearance.

I'm actually lightly poking fun at the jumbled mess of Darkseid's appearances since he has quite a few cameos in-between what's considered a 1st full and 2nd full appearance. I'm not taking it all that seriously though, and it's somewhat the same with the Grandmaster

Not sure if 6 panels on four pages constitutes a minor 1st or 1st full appearance or not. Gambit's 1st appearance in Uncanny X-Men Annual #14 has him in about 6 panels on 5 pages and that's considered a minor appearance in Overstreet.

Depends on what you constitute an appearance whether it's a cameo, 3 panels, 2 pages, 8 panels, 4 pages or whatever. If so, then just disregard what I've noted Ego's 2nd appearances and Grandmaster's 1st appearances and number them accordingly to your perception

However, CGC has put their stamp on Ego's 1st cameo appearance and 1st full appearance. I think Overstreet will follow suit eventually.

Grandmaster will be in Thor: Ragnarok and played by Jeff Goldblum, so perhaps these Elders will be expanded upon when it comes to the Marvel/Disney cinematic universe. I don't think the first appearances of the Collector, Grandmaster and Ego ever establish that they're part of the Elders of the Universe. Ego is referred to as a Bioverse in his earliest appearances. 

Part 2 is ready so just click the link to continue. Have a good one all and see ya soon.


  1. With the casting of the Grandmaster and already the Collector. I think its important for Marvel to introduce some of these characters into the movies since the Elders did play a role in the stories involving the infinity gems before Thanos took them into the lead up to the Infinity Gauntlet and Infinity War storylines. We'll just have to wait to see how many of them they decide to put in the films.

    1. I'm also interested in seeing what they do with the Elders and what the Grandmaster's role will even be. Some are saying he'll possess an Infinity Stone. No clue about that. I know we are still waiting for the Time & Soul Stones or Gems. Some are saying the Eye of Agamotto will be the Time Stone/Gem. Definitely got my interest and it would make sense for Ego to show up in a GOTG flick since it is more of a space opera. Can't wait to learn more!