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Monday, March 28, 2016

Non 1st Appearance Origin Key Comics Part 3




This is Part 3 to this origin key comics series, and since the prior 2 parts have featured mainly DC Comic characters, we're gonna look at some Marvel. Are origin key comics good comic investments? Some are for sure and some aren't the best.

Click this Part 2 link if you missed it, but if you're good to go, just scroll down and see what's in Part 3. Enjoy!




FANTASTIC FOUR #53
1st appearance of Klaw
Origin of Black Panther
Origin of Klaw
2nd appearance of Black Panther

Alright, alright! When it comes to this one, I have to bend the rules a bit because the origin of Black Panther is directly related to the origin and 1st appearance of his arch nemesis, Klaw.

However, this particular key issue is featured here, because it has the 1st origin of Black Panther. Obviously, Black Panther's 1st appearance in Fantastic Four #52 doesn't reveal his origin, so this one counts in that respect.

As most already know, Klaw is responsible for killing T'Challa's pops who was the previous Black Panther. This origin also explains that T'Challa is responsible for the loss of Klaw's right hand.

There's a lot of key issue goodness concerning this comic. It also has the 2nd appearance of Black Panther, and, of course, the unavoidable 1st appearance and 1st origin of the villainous Klaw.

Still, this key issue was not all that sought-out before Black Panther movie hype stirred up in collectordom. Back in 2012 and 2013, this comic at CGC 9.4 was only selling in the higher $400 range. By 2014, it jumped up to the $800 range, and beginning in 2015, it finally crossed into the $1,000 range.

The highest CGC 9.4 sold for a whopping $1,800 in March of 2015. The most recent sold for only $1,250 on eBay via Best Offer in August, 2015.

Right now at the time of this writing, the highest is a CGC 9.8 of this comic, actually three of them. Total is 623 registered copies in the census, but I seriously think there are still quite a few raw copies out there that are either in the process of getting graded or just sitting in a few vaults. 
Who knows, though? How has this origin of Black Panther done throughout the decades? Take a gander below.

Overstreet 1982-83 12th Edition
Overstreet 1990-91 20th Edition

Mint: $8
Fine: $4
Good: $1.50

Near Mint: $15
Fine: $6.50
Good: $2.15

Overstreet 2002-03 33rd Edition
Overstreet 2015-16 45th Edition

Near Mint: $140
Very Fine/Near Mint: $109
Very Fine: $78
Fine: $33
Very Good: $22
Good: $11

Near Mint (low): $450
Very Fine/Near Mint: $291
Very Fine: $131
Fine: $57
Very Good: $38
Good: $19

Last year, 9.2 CGC copies of this comic were selling around the $700 range. There were only 2 sales in 2015 for 9.2s.

This comic definitely got a lot more interest because of Black Panther movie hype, so it's pretty sought out currently. Fantastic Four #53 definitely has a lot of key issue goodness besides it revealing the origin story of Black Panther, and this comic has the cover date of August, 1966.






MARVEL PREVIEW #2
1st Origin of the Punisher

Punisher is a hot comic character currently due to Netflix's Daredevil Season Two. Even though they altered the Punisher origin somewhat, the show kept true to the essence of it.

Frank Castle watches his family brutally murdered in Central Park in this issue, and Marvel Preview #2 is the 1st time the Punisher's origin is told. It's in magazine format, and this is one of comic's classic origin stories for sure.

If you're a fan of the character like I am, this is a must-have for sure. However, this comic hasn't really taken off in a big bad way across the board, although this key issue is not really all that plentiful in the CGC Census currently.


At the time of this writing there are a total of 283 copies registered and the highest graded copy so far are 29 9.8s. Overstreet shows this comic has been over-looked for quite some time and is gaining a bit of steam in this current comic boom.

Overstreet 1982-83 12th Edition
Overstreet 1990-91 20th Edition

Mint: $2.60
Fine: $1.50
Good: $.45

Near Mint: $120
Fine: $50
Good: $17

Overstreet 2002-03 33rd Edition
Overstreet 2015-16 45th Edition

Near Mint: $90
Very Fine/Near Mint: $73
Very Fine: $55
Fine: $21 
Very Good: $14
Good: $7

Near Mint (low): $210
Very Fine/Near Mint: $138
Very Fine: $66
Fine: $30
Very Good: $20
Good: $10

Most recent sale of CGC 9.8 was at eBay, and the copy sold for $875 in this month of March. Highest sale of a CGC 9.8 was $999.00 back in March, 2015.

CGC 9.2s, however, are selling below their guide price on eBay. Last year in October, a CGC 9.2 sold for only $150. Marvel Preview #2 has the cover date of August, 1975.






AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #195
1st origin of the Black Cat
2nd appearance of Black Cat

Black Cat's debut is in the previous issue of Amazing Spider-Man #194, but it's in her 2nd appearance where she reveals her 1st origin story. It's not the most grandiose, but it is an origin story.

Apparently Felicia Hardy's father was also a notorious cat burglar, and although her mother had kept his past from her, she later found out and wanted to follow in her daddy's footsteps. Therefore, Felicia Hardy became an expert cat burglar.

Black Cat is very much Marvel's Catwoman. Her dynamic with Spidey is very similar to the dynamic between Batman and Catwoman.

Black Cat or Felicia Hardy did date Peter Parker for a time, however. I wouldn't expect this comic to be rare despite the low CGC Census.
Just look at all the 9.8s and higher grade NMs already registered in the CGC Census at the time of this writing. I don't expect this one to have a spectacular performance record since this comic got on the radar due to Black Cat movie speculation not long ago.

Overstreet 1982-83 12th Edition
Overstreet 1990-91 20th Edition

Mint: $.80
Fine: $.40
Good: $0

Near Mint: $3
Fine: $1.50
Good: $.50

Overstreet 2002-03 33rd Edition
Overstreet 2015-16 45th Edition

Near Mint: $12
Very Fine/Near Mint: $11
Very Fine: $9
Fine: $6
Very Good: $4
Good: $2

Near Mint (low): $35
Very Fine/Near Mint: $26
Very Fine: $17
Fine: $9
Very Good: $6
Good: $3

Most recent CGC 9.8 sold this month of March and for $152.50 on eBay. Definitely wouldn't say this comic is in huge demand at the moment and has actually declined from it's 2014 average of $200 concerning eBay sales. Amazing Spider-Man #195 has the cover date of August, 1979.






MORE FUN COMICS #67
1st origin of Dr. Fate

Dr. Fate first appeared in More Fun Comics #55, but did not receive an origin story until this very issue here. There are multiple versions of Dr. Fate, but this is the original Kent Nelson.

His archaeologist father and him were in the valley of Ur in ancient Mesopotamia or modern day Iraq exploring a temple. Of course, they release or revive Nabu the Wise from suspended animation but Kent's father is killed in the process.

Nabu takes pity on the young Kent and becomes his teacher of magic. After twenty-something years, Nabu gives Kent a mystical helmet, amulet and cloak, dubbing him Doctor Fate.

Kent returns to the States and becomes a crime fighter and super-hero. Kent would go on to be an original founding member of the Justice Society of America.

CGC Census is very low for this comic, and it has been known as a scarce comic since the 80s. Highest is a CGC 9.6 so far in the census and that sucker sold in 2012 at ComicLink for $20,805.
Yowza! Definitely not over-looked in the market by keen comic investors. Overstreet data below for this golden oldie.

Overstreet 1982-83 12th Edition
Overstreet 1990-91 20th Edition

Mint: $470
Fine: $230
Good: $80

Near Mint: $1,200
Fine: $500
Good: $200

Overstreet 2002-03 33rd Edition
Overstreet 2015-16 45th Edition

Near Mint: $8,500
Very Fine/Near Mint: $6,375
Very Fine: $4,250
Fine: $1,890
Very Good: $1,260
Good: $630

Near Mint (low): $12,000
Very Fine/Near Mint: $8,369
Very Fine: $4,738
Fine: $1,947
Very Good: $1,298
Good: $649

Quite scarce and early Golden Age 1st origin here, More Fun Comics #67 has performed quite well over the years and has definitely proven to be one of the better and more scarce origin comics to invest in if you can find a copy. This comic has the cover date of May, 1941.

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It should be obvious that an origin key comic is usually a better comic investment if it also holds the 1st appearance of the featured character like in Amazing Fantasy #15 or Journey Into Mystery #83 or even another major character or villain like in Fantastic Four #53.

This isn't always true, and sometimes rarity is a big factor as well like More Fun Comics #67. I do find it very strange that More Fun Comics #67 has done a lot better than the 1st origin of Green Arrow and Speedy in More Fun Comics #89.

I think Green Arrow is a comic character that's a lot more popular and More Fun Comics #89 is pretty scarce concerning the CGC Census as well. Just something that puzzles me and doing these types of posts or series does help to dig up some over-looked and under-valued key comics, despite whatever era they come from.

Marvel Preview #2 is still puzzling to me why it hasn't had the greatest of growth throughout the decades, but then again, I'm biased about that since I'm a Punisher fan. I fully admit that.

Anyways, more origin key comics to look at in Part 4, so just click the appropriate link below to continue onward!




5 comments:

  1. I have 3 out of the 4 books listed here. I think that FF #53 will have a jump in value when we get closer to the Black Panther film and casting announcements. I am too a big Punisher fan and still can't believe that Marvel Preview #2 still doesn't get any respect in the market. It's such an important book for the character. I truly like this posting so far. A great way to change things up a bit Mayhem.

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    1. Well, this was requested by Pablo. Really was his idea not mine. Yeah, Marvel Preview #2 still is a bit slow in catching on. I'm bias though...really bias when it comes to early Punisher keys. We'll see if it gets more love eventually.

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  2. Black Panther has a ton of origin books, in addition to the FF #53, it was retold in Avengers #87, and then again in Jungle Action #8. The latter I was able to pick up in the $5 bin recently. What are your thoughts on comparing these three books?

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    1. Avengers #87 is a good one and expands on his origin more than FF #53. Don't really know about Jungle Action #8. I'd still place more importance of FF #53 since it's the first origin told and also introduces Klaw and his origin as well. Avengers #87 is a good one. Truly don't know how significant Jungle Action #8 is to the origin. Maybe someone else knows more about that book.

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  3. Hey Origin Hunters,

    anyone now where I can find the origin of the Kingpin? Is it in Amazing Spiderman 50, 51 or somewhere else? I think he' s a cool character and I would like to get more in touch with him. Thanks gang!

    Zoe

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