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Saturday, March 14, 2015

Sub-Mariner Key Comic Issues Part 2

Splish, splash, Namor taking a bath. Welcome to Part 2 to this Sub-Mariner key comic issues, and we are showcasing some of the Golden Age big boys. Comic investments or investment comics? Yep, and I would say pretty much every single one in Part 1 and Part 2 of this list so far fit the definition.

We're talking solid investments here for the character and for the historical value these comics presented in the birth of the superhero comics industry. I mentioned that Namor is the first anti-hero in superhero comics in Part 1, but these Golden Age issues laid the foundation that superhero comics are built upon.

These are what I would classify as long-term investments, but quite a few are expensive and out of reach for most. However, it also depends on the issue and the grade. Some are over-looked at lower grades, but many will be expensive even at lower grades.

Namor is part of the Big 3 for Timely Comics back in the day, and it would be a shame if this half human/half Atlantean lady kidnapper from the deepest fathoms of the ocean doesn't get his due on the big screen.

Okay enough of me jabbering. Missed the previous part to this key comic issues list? Just click this Part 1 link to go fishing over yonder. If you're ready to go, hold your breath, cause we going diving. 

Namor & Sub-Mariner battle
Cross over story continued

As stated in the crossover key issues list, this first crossover story for Timely/Marvel comics started in Marvel Mystery Comics #7. However, Human Torch and Namor do not meet until Marvel Mystery Comics #8.

In issue #8, the battle between the two was more like a small skirmish. In this issue, it's more like a set of small skirmishes between the two, but the battle that began in issue #8 is continued in issue #9.

The first story crossover that established a shared continuity (universe) for the superheroes of Timely/Marvel Comics would be continued in the next issue as well.

Marvel Mystery Comics #9 was published July, 1940.

eBay - Only one raw copy of this one and it seems like it's priced way over guide for the condition. It's priced a bit above VG condition, and I doubt it's a VG.

Namor & Human Torch 1st crossover continued
1st appearance of Luther Robinson

Luther Robinson is an early recurring foe of Sub-Mariner. Although a mere human and after the attack on New York by Subby, Luther Robinson deems Namor a threat to mankind.

Therefore, the idiot would hire a ship to mount an attack on Atlantis with a cruise ship, invoking the anger of Submariner. Luther's companion, a woman named Lynne Harris, would also go along for the ride for some odd reason.

Being a sucker for the beautiful ladies, Namor was smitten by Lynne Harris and tried kidnapping her to bring back to Atlantis. In later issues, Namor would repeatedly try to kidnap Lynne Harris, but Luther Robinson would always save her.

Tuning into more of his villainous side, Namor would try to kidnap both Lynne and Luther and keep the two prisoners of Atlantis during a few issues later. The couple were early recurring supporting characters of Namor's during the Golden Age.

This issue continues and concludes Namor and Human Torch's battle and crossover story. Marvel Mystery comics #10 was published August, 1940.

eBay - Holy Moly, a CGC 8.0 VF copy is here at the time of this writing, and it's a Universal! There's also a CGC 3.5 VG minus Universal copy as well. Two raw copies also located and one is advertised as a VG/FN.

ComicLink - Same CGC 8.0 VF copy is here as well.

1st Sub-Mariner in title
1st Human Torch self-titled series

Submariner and Human Torch were in pretty much every Timely comic title together but in separate adventures. This is even true for their own self-titled comic series. In the Human Torch Comics, Namor was usually a back feature.

This was probably done to help boost sales or to keep sales steady. Also, many comics at the time were anthology comics which featured several characters and their stories in a single comic.

So, this is the first issue to the self-titled Human Torch Comics series. It was previously Red Raven Comics, which did not feature Namor or Human Torch in the first and only issue. Human Torch Comics #2 was published October, 1940.

eBay - Only one CGC 4.0 VG Restored copy of this one on eBay currently.

mycomicshop - Same CGC 4.0 VG Restored copy is at mycomicshop also.

1st Namor and Human Torch team up

In their first meeting, the original Human Torch and Namor battled each other. In Marvel Mystery Comics #17 they would eventually team up to whomp on some Nazis. Since this is when the Marvel company went under Timely Comics, it's not noted as the first Marvel team up.

However, whether you think of it as such or not, it is an early comic book team up. This Golden Age marvel was published March, 1941.  

eBay - Five copies here so far with only one CGC copy that's a 3.0 GD/VG. Others are raw copies.

mycomicshop - One CGC 3.0 GD/VG is the only copy here at the moment.

ComicLink - Only one CGC 5.5 FN minus copy here.

1st self-titled Sub-Mariner comic series

Kinda strange that Sub-Mariner would get his own titled series after the original Human Torch, but here it is. Much like most Timely Comics concerning either Namor or Human Torch, the latter also has back up stories in the pages of Sub-Mariner Comics.

No surprise there. However, it wouldn't be soon after until Timely's Big 3 were all compacted in one magnificent comic title. That, my friends, will be revealed quite soon.

Another one of the great Golden Age key issues, Submariner Comics #1 was published April, 1941.

eBay - Saw six copies, all first prints. Two are raw copies and there are some CGC copies. Highest CGC is a 7.0 FN/VF Universal and the lowest is a 5.5 FN minus Universal. There's also two 6.5 FN+ CGC copies as well.

ComicLink - Three CGC copies here. Highest is a whopping 8.5 VF+ Universal. Other two are a 6.0 FN and a 3.5 VG minus.

1st comic to have the Big 3

Okay, the notation is a tad misleading and not so much. All Winners Comics #1 is the first title to have Human Torch, Sub-Mariner and Captain America as featured stories all in one comic. They do not crossover into their own separate features throughout this comic series until a later issue.

However, there is a kicker to that, and I'll explain when we get to the actual issue. That particular issue I've featured on Total Comic Mayhem before, so some may know which one I'm talking about.

As of yet, industry isn't making a big fuss about this one and what I'm noting it, and I do believe this is the first comic cover to feature Captain America, Namor, and the Human Torch together. All-Winners Comics #1 was published Summer, 1941.

eBay - Seven copies here and some are raw and some slabbed. Believe it or not, a CGC 7.0 FN/VF is up there. There's also a Restored copy of the same grade. Lowest slab is a 4.5 VG+ Restored copy. Raw copy is advertised as a GD.

mycomicshop - CGC 7.0 Conserved graded copy is here. Conserved? What's that crap all about? Just call it Restored, which it is.

ComicConnect - Two copies here with one of them being a CGC 6.5 FN+ Restored copy. The other is a raw GD.

If we're talking about biggies here, there's definitely some in this list. Just looking at some of these make me wanna go into debt. You better believe that dealers are constantly looking for these Timely Golden Age key issues, and they are not easy ones to hunt down.

Even lower grade ones aren't easy to locate, and getting a deal for many of these will be even harder to find. Always worth a shot, and I'd much rather buy one of these than pay over a grand for the 2nd appearance of Black Adam.

Like I said, these comics are comic history, during a time when the superhero genre of comics was in it's infancy. The things like the crossover of the Human Torch and Sub-Mariner are tactics that would be carried over well into today.

Anyways, if you missed Part 1, the PREVIOUS link below will take you there. Part 3 of this Sub-Mariner key comic issues is ready so just lick the PART 3 link below to continue.

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