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Monday, October 20, 2014

My CBCS Experience


By: Gerry D

It's October 17 as I am writing this, and as I've mentioned before, I sent out my Uncanny X-Men 297 Pressman variant to CBCS to get graded. Well, the waiting is finally over as it was just delivered to me. It took quite a while longer to get it back than I expected it to but there's a reason for that which I'll get into, but let me start from the beginning.

I got my book packaged up with my submission form and mailed everything out on July 29th. I got an email from CBCS a few days later stating that my book had arrived. I went on their website and looked at my account page and my comics status was listed as "In Safe". Perfect, that's exactly what I expected to see. 20 Business days is how long the turnaround time is for a book of that year and value. As the 20 business days went along I was checking more often to see if my book had been graded yet. The 20 days came and went and the status still said "In Safe". "No big deal, it's a new company" I thought to myself.

About a week after the 20 business days I got another email from them. My book was finally being graded. I went to the CBCS website again and the status predictably changed from "In Safe" to "Grading". Now I was getting excited. My book is getting graded now and will be on it's way back to me soon. I'm hoping that it's at least a 9.4 like I thought it was. I kept checking back daily to see if it had been graded yet, but it took about another week and a half to go through the grading process, but it did finally get graded. After the grading process was finished, everything else went very fast. The encapsulation took another day and then quality control and shipping went very quick.

After my comic was graded and in the process of being encapsulated, I typed the serial # into the graders notes to see why my book was graded a 9.6. Did I mention that it was a 9.6? Well, it is. Yessss!!! Even better than I was expecting it to be. Here's a screenshot of the graders notes for my book. It's great having these graders notes available. Now I know what to look for when trying to estimate grades for books I submit in the future.


I picked the cheapest shipping option that they offered which was Fed Ex ground. I copy and pasted the tracking # to see where my book was. Yes, I was getting impatient. While my comic was en route to me I saw a notice on Facebook from CBCS saying that their plastics supplier was using recycled PETG for their inner sleeves instead of virgin PETG and in some instances the sleeves were cracking during shipping. However, after a week, I received my package, opened it up, and checked to see if anything was cracked. It looked good so I put it in my vault. Then, the Fed Ex delivery guy came back to my house to take the package back to CBCS. Great! I really didn't want to send it back but ended up doing it anyway. I rewrapped it, put it back in the box and handed it back to the Fed Ex guy. I had my book in my vault for all of 30 min. Somewhere along the way CBCS had Fed Ex return all the books that were currently being shipped out to be reholdered. They wrote in their notice that they didn't want to use any substandard materials for their service, which I understand. At least they reholdered it for free.

A little while later, about a couple of days, another message from CBCS appeared on Facebook. They were switching their plastics suppliers and it will be another 4-5 weeks before they received their new sleeves and that books were not being graded until then. "Sigh." Well, I've waited this long, what's another month. I'm not planning on selling my comic anytime soon.

I waited and waited. On my account page, the status never changed from "Shipped" from the previous time they shipped the book back to me, so I wasn't aware that they even reholdered my comic and sent it back to me again. I got a notice on my door from Fed Ex yesterday saying that they tried to deliver a package. I got super excited. It had to be my comic. They came back today and I finally have my first comic graded by CBCS in my vault.

When I checked the book the first time I received it from CBCS, I noticed that nowhere on the label was it mentioned that it was a "gold" or "Pressman" variant edition. After Fed Ex came and took my comic back the first time, I called CBCS and mentioned it to them. I was told to send an email with the books serial # and asked them if they could make a note of it on the label. However, when I got the book back today, it was never fixed. That was a little bit disappointing.

Overall I didn't have a bad experience with CBCS, it just took much longer than I had expected. They were very open about the problems that they were having and did everything they could to make sure I had the best product that they could give me. The only real disappointment was the label. Oh well, no big deal. It's obvious that its the Pressman variant even if it's not written on there. I have 5 more books there now being graded that I got a big discount on because of the problems they had and I am again getting excited to see how well they'll be graded. Fingers crossed. Until next time...

14 comments:

  1. Mucho Gracias for whipping this up and sharing your first experience with CBCS. Must admit while I was reading and editing this, I was too disappointed they didn't mark this a Gold Pressman variant either, but it's easy to tell it is. Bushes in the background are gold and the "Songs End" wording is red instead of gold. Thanks again for writing this up, brutha man!

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    1. No problem. I figured that anyone thinking about submitting their comics to CBCS would like to hear about someone elses experience with them. I'm fairly sure now that CBCS has most of the kinks worked, that getting your books back will be a lot faster than my experience. Obviously, I'll be using them again. The prices are still MUCH cheaper than sending my comics to CGC.

      ~Gerry D

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    2. Got a real good mind to crack open that Amazing Spider-Man #300 and give CBCS a shot at that...as an experiment.

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    3. You should do that. Even if it does come back the same grade you'll have the graders notes to tell you why. And it won't drain your bank account.

      ~Gerry D

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  2. It's weird that they don't mark it as a variant. I wonder if they indicate reprints, like Golden record reprints or JC Penney reprints?

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    1. I would assume that they do indicate reprints. If you do an eBay search for vairants, 2nd print or reprints, there are a lot of results. As for the X-Men Pressman variants I don't know if they have it in their system or not. However, I did mark it as a Pressman variant on my submission form as well as sending out the email and still it wasn't labeled as such.
      ~Gerry D

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  3. Awesome! Great to hear about CBCS. I like their label better than CGC and have been thinking about submitting to them. I hope this company tries to be more consistent than CGC. Do an experiment sometime and submit the same book to CGC 2 or 3 times if you have the funds. You'll be surprised at the varying results.

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    1. I think that grading a book consistantly the same everytime would not an easy thing to do since it's all based on opinion. So, depending on which group of people are grading your book or even the mood that they're in might be big influences on their decisions. Maybe the competiton will help CGC and CBCS be more consistent.

      I wish I had that kind of money to spare to try an experiment like that. But I think that money would be better going toward a nice key issue that's on my want list.

      ~Gerry D

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    2. I kinda agree...I still think that the industry needs to clarify grading standards, how many spine creases does a FN allow, how much foxing is allowed before it goes down a grade...what kind of color determines slight between moderate or extreme foxing, tanning, etc.

      No more opinion or biases...definite guidelines...I think the grading companies need to adhere to Overstreet's standard a bit more as well. Creases up to a certain size that break color on a cover should not be VF 8.0s. These guidelines have been around since the 70s, you think the industry would concrete them after 40 something years. Ridiculous to me.

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  4. Awesome, Gerry, that you got it back as a 9.6!!! It really looks like it´s a good alternative to CGC, a one that is more affordable...I don´t mind, if it takes longer than usual, as long as the results are like that! Looking forward to hear from your other items, hopefully there will be more 9.6´s for you! :) Thanks for sharing, Sven

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  5. Hey Sven, How's Berlin?

    Yeah, I was really excited when it came back a 9.6. I'm still excited actually. CBCS is a nice alternative to CGC. Not only because it's cheaper but because they seem to have high standards for their company. Not to mention that Steve Borock, the founder of CBCS, was also the Primary Grader and Restoration Detection Expert when CGC first started.

    As for my other books being graded? I wish that they'd come back 9.6's but that's definitely not gonna happen. I have some Silver, Bronze and 1 Modern book being graded. I may do a guest Vault article when I get them back.

    ~Gerry D

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    1. I hope they come back 9.9s and 10s. You know me, always hoping for the best. I'm sure they'll come back agreeable.

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