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Thursday, August 29, 2013

Avengers Key Issues Part 3



Alrighty, we are winding down to the last few on this list. It's been getting harder to finish this list while watching the movie The Dictator and laughing my ass off.  

So this is Part 3 to the Avengers Key Issues list. If you stumbled upon this without reading Part 2 or Part 1, no worries. You can use the links below and navigate your way to them and back here as well.

So let's wrap this up. Here are the last few.




Avengers #71 comic cover image
AVENGERS #71
  • 1st appearance of The Invaders
  • Black Knight joins
Going back to Marvel's Timely Comics roots, it appears that Captain America, Bucky, the original Human Torch, his sidekick Toro, and Namor the Submariner were part of a superhero team that battled Nazis during World War II. Because of Kang's time traveling abilities, Black Panther, Yellow Jacket, and the Vision are sent back to France in the year 1941.

It's here where these three Avengers from the future are confronted by a golden age Captain America, the Submariner, and the human android Human Torch. This storyline sparked the Invaders team, and the Invaders concept was made into its own spin-off series.

The Black Knight also joins the Avengers in this issue. 

mycomicshop - High grade lovers! Mycomicshop.com's got two high CGC graded copies available. One's a beautiful 9.4 NM and the other a lower NM 9.2. For those with a tighter budget, there's also an extremely affordable GD+, unslabbed copy for sale as well. 

ebay - A little bit of a better selection concerning this issue on ebay compared to Avengers #59. Saw a few high grade CGC copies, but mostly unslabbed copies here.




Avengers #87 cover
AVENGERS #87
  • Origin of The Black Panther

It's about time that we get filled in about T'Challa the Black Panther and his origin story. It happens to be one of the coolest origin stories and made me a fan of the character.

I still hope Black Panther gets his own solo movie, because his origin story itself would be amazing played out on the big screen.

mycomicshop - One VG unslabbed copy and one GD copy available to be snagged here. Both are quite affordable for this Black Panther origin key issue.




Avengers #92 cover
AVENGERS #92
  • Neal Adams Cover
  • Last 15 cent issue

Mostly known for his work on Batman, legendary comic artist Neal Adams starts his short-lived run on the Avengers series with issue #92. However, Adams just does the cover art for this issue. In the next issue, Adams does both the cover art and story pencils.

mycomicshop - Looking for a high grade investment worthy copy of Avengers #92? Well, there's a gorgeous CGC 9.6 NM+ for sale at a reasonable price at mycomicshop.com. There's also an unslabbed VF+ for under a hundred bucks as well. If you want this bad boy, you know what to do! Just visit the blue link above and choose your newest comic investment.

ebay - More of a selection here on ebay, but a bit skimpy on the CGC copies. Still worth while to check out and shop around on ebay. You may get a better deal.



Avengers #98 comic cover
AVENGERS #98
  • Clint Barton becomes Hawkeye

All I can say is thank, God! Clint Barton hangs up the Goliath mantle and returns to being the superhero he was meant to be - Hawkeye! 

NewKadia - Let's see what the fine folks at NewKadia has for this issue. Well, it seems that they two copies at the time of this writing. One is a FN+ and the other a FN-. Both are under $20 bucks, so I suggest to grab the higher grade FN+, of course.

mycomicshop - Another CGC 9.6 NM+ key issue Avengers comic at mycomicshop. Only one copy available for Avengers #98 at a beautiful high grade and probably won't last very long before it gets snagged. 

After all, quite a few collectors are on the hunt for Avengers key issues, and many will only get those NM high graded copies. Perfect to add to your comic investment collection.





Avengers #100 cover picture
AVENGERS #100
  • 100th issue landmark
  • Hulk joins/leaves team
  • Ant-Man joins/leaves team
  • Wasp joins/leaves team
  • Black Panther joins/leaves team
Not only is this the landmark 100th issue, Avengers #100 features a story that calls for every Avenger past and present to assemble for the fate of the world. Even original member the Hulk is convinced to take up the fight with the team once again.

However, once the world is saved by Earth's Mightiest Heroes, we discover that the non-active members of the Avengers only rejoined the team briefly for the story's crisis and again part ways.  

mycomicshop - A wonderful CGC 9.0 VF/NM copy available at a fairly affordable price here. Best to check it out if you have your sights on this key issue Avengers comic. Of course, there's also ebay, and you can check out some of selection there that I've located below.




Avengers King Size Special #1
AVENGERS KING SIZE SPECIAL #1
  • Iron Man rejoins team
  • Thor rejoins team
  • New Avengers line up

With Wasp and Henry Pym back into the fold, two more original members of the Avengers rejoin the team - Thor and Iron Man! This line up of the team has become one of the most iconic and memorable to this day.

I don't know about you, but when I think of the Avengers: Cap, Hawkeye, Iron Man, Thor, Quicksilver, and the Scarlet Witch always pops into my head pretty fast.

ebay - Not such an easy book to hunt down. Only a few unslabbed copies on ebay but didn't see any CGC copies at the time of this writing. That may have changed, though, depending on when you're reading this, so it could be beneficial to click the blue ebay link above to check it out.



Avengers Annual #10 image
AVENGERS ANNUAL #10
  • 1st appearance of Rogue

Perhaps not really significant to the Avengers mythos per say, but this 1980s comic is extremely important as it gives birth to one of the most popular female heroines today. That's right! This issues sees the first appearance of Rogue, who becomes an important and popular supporting team member of the mutant hero team, my favorite comic, The X-Men. If you're also looking for X-Men key issues, be sure to click to link to see my list of X-Men keys to get!

As a comic investment, this key issue is pretty sought after. It's definitely no light weight and will put a nice dent in your wallet, Sugah!

NewKadia - Three copies here, but only one NM-. The other two are in the VF range, with one being a VF+. This key issue and first appearance of Rogue is getting more and more valuable. Best to get it while it's still under a hundred bucks. 

ebay - Nice selection of unslabbed copies, but lacking some CGC copies. There are, however, a few high grade CGC copies I spotted in the search results. Click the link to check out if more CGC graded copies have gone up for auction.




Avengers Annual #7 cover
AVENGERS ANNUAL #7
  • Death of Warlock

Oh, these deaths in comic books are complicated, especially when you have the cosmic king of comics Jim Starlin writing them. All I'm gonna say is that Adam Warlock dies for a moment after battling the Mad Titan, Thanos.

NewKadia - Concerning Avengers Annual #7, NewKadia doesn't disappoint and has available for sale some nice copies of their own. The first is a raw NM- and the other not far behind at a VF+. If you don't care for slabbed CGC graded comics and want this issue, you know what to do. Just visit the blue link and scroll until you find this key issue and add to cart!

mycomicshop - Lot's of copies to grab here of Avengers Annual #7. However, the prize is the CGC 9.8 NM/MINT copy of this badboy. Not a cheap snag, either. Also, a 9.2 low NM available as well, but it's an unslabbed copy. 


There they are to this Avengers key issues list. Sure there are quite a few more key issues within the Avengers title, but this list does highlight most of the important keys.


I hope you enjoyed and this helps you get some ideas on what key issue Avengers comics to add to your want list.  Thanks for reading and sharing this on Facebook or Twitter. Also, don't be shy to comment as well. Until next time!


Avengers Key Issues Part 2!



Welcome to Part 2 of the Avengers Key Issues list here at Total Comic Mayhem. If you missed Part 1, you can navigate your way back easy. If you didn't miss Part 1, then carry on and enjoy.


<< Part 1




Avengers #48 cover
AVENGERS #48
  • 1st appearance of Black Knight III
  • Origin of Black Knight III
The original Masters of Evil. Finally, The Avengers get a super villain team to put their might to the test. The original consisted of the original Black Knight, Melter and Radioactive man. This super villain team was put together by the original Baron Zemo, who became a popular foe for Captain America.

This isn't exactly the best line up for the Masters of Evil in my humble opinion, but it is a start. Nevertheless, this issue holds the first full appearance of Baron Zemo. However, Zemo did appear in flashbacks in Avengers #4 also, but was never addressed by name.

NewKadia - Unslabbed comic fans, three copies for sale! One is a FN+, the other a FN-, and the last a Very Good Plus. Extremely affordable copies for sale here if you're on a tighter budget.


mycomicshop - A mouth watering and tongue-wagging CGC 9.6 high grade NM+ is for the taking concerning this Avengers key issue. Also, another beautiful and eye appeasing CGC 9.4 NM can be bought here. 

The last option is a low grade, unslabbed GD+. Want this key issue of the first appearance of the new Black Knight? Visit the link and make off like a bandit with your choice of this key issue comic investment.

ebay - Nothing better than variety, and ebay has quite a few of unslabbed and CGC graded copies available for this issue. Most of the CGC graded copies are higher grade and a bit more expensive. I believe I saw a CGC 9.6. Anyways, it never hurts to check it out if you're hunting for Avengers key comics.




Avengers #52 cover image
AVENGERS #52
  • Black Panther Joins

Out of pages of the Fantastic Four, The Black Panther assembles with Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Whether he'll assemble in Avengers 2 is still unknown. Hopefully, he'll get into the third one. To see the first appearance of The Black Panther, just click the link and you'll be brought to my list of the Top Fantastic Four Key Issues. It's good stuff.

Anywho, this key issue isn't in super high demand and is still pretty affordable. Be sure to check out the links below to some places selling this silver age key issue if you're on the hunt for it.

mycomicshop - Concerning this issue where the Black Panther joins the Avengers, the fine folks at mycomicshop don't dissapoint. Three copies are available, and all are third party graded.

Two are 9.4 Near Mints, one CGC graded and the other PGX. The last option is CGC 9.0. All are still pretty affordable at the moment, but I doubt that will last long once Black Panther makes his way on the big screen and assembles with the Avengers.

ComicLink - If you're taste is even finickier and higher grade NM CGC copies are more your taste, then ComicLink has two copies just for you. One is an extremely high grade CGC 9.8 and the other a CGC 9.6, but both are for those who are truly serious about comic investing and having their investment's values rise quicker and more consistently.

ebay - Two or three CGC 9.4 copies and two CGC 9.0 I saw in ebay's search results, but unslabbed, raw copies are no problem finding on ebay. There are plenty.





Avengers #54 cover
AVENGERS #54
  • 1st appearance of new Masters of Evil
  • 1st cameo of Ultron


In my humble opinion, I like this Masters of Evil line up a lot better than the original. Mostly because Ultron put it together, under the guise of the Crimson Cowl, and it has Klaw.

As most comic geeks know, Klaw may have made his first appearance in the Fantastic Four comics, but he is the arch nemesis of The Black Panther. Not too surprising since Klaw did kill Black Panther's father.

This incarnation also has Thor's nemesis the Radioactive Man, Melter, and Whirlwind.  Radioactive man and Melter are the only two original members of Ultron's Masters of Evil incarnation.

The third Black Knight (Dane Whitman) is also a member of Ultron's Masters of Evil, but he is secretly a mole for the Avengers as an attempt to prove his worth into Earth's Mightiest Heroes. 

mycomicshop - Only one copy here, and it's a lower grade, Very Good Plus 4.5. Not quite so sure why it's priced way above guide values, especially for an unslabbed copy. 

ebay - Because of the movie hype of Avengers Age of Ultron, this key issue has flooded the market at prices way over guide. You won't have a problem finding this key issue graded or unslabbed. Paying for it may be a different story.





Avengers #55 cover
AVENGERS #55
  • 1st appearance of Ultron
This badboy is on the hot burner right now in terms of demand, and it has everything to do with the fact that Ultron is the main villain in the Avengers movie sequel coming out in 2015.

A sleeper key issue no more! The first appearance of Ultron in Avengers #55 has become an important Avengers key issue to get. Unslabbed mid grade to NM copies are selling on ebay way over Overstreet Guide values at the moment.

It's safe to say, you won't get this one cheap at the moment.

mycomicshop - A few lower grade and unslabbed copies here. The highest is GD/VG and the other two are in the GD range. If you're on a tight budget, these copies may be in your price range for a really hot investment comic at the moment.

ebay - Like I said, this book is hot right now, and there quite a few available options for both unslabbed and graded copies. However, high grade CGC copies are dropping for quite some mulah for the first full appearance of Ultron. Expect to pay over guide for this book now.





Avengers #57 comic cover pic
AVENGERS #57
  • 1st appearance of The Vision
Speculation of the Vision appearing in a future Avengers movie has spiked the demand for the first appearance of the Vision for quite some time. Even though Avengers director and writer, Joss Whedon has said multiple times that Vision will not be in Avengers 2 Age of Ultron, many comic book investors and collectors still are gunning for this Avengers key comic.

Why is that? Well, it's only a matter of time before Vision makes his debut on screen that's why! There's no way they would dismiss one of the Avenger's most popular  comic characters. This comic is way under-valued in Overstreet, and highly doubtful you'll get a copy at the price listed in OS.

ebay - This comic was all over the place on ebay a few months ago. Seems like it's dying down a bit. The price hasn't, though. You can still find loads of options for CGC and unslabbed copies there. Vision has not been announced to hit the big screen. When he is, this book will get crazy hot!




Avengers #58 comic cover image
AVENGERS #58
  • Origin of The Vision
First appearances may be important, but origins are important key issues also. This Avengers key issue tells the tale of how Vision came to be. Unlike the first appearance of the Vision in #57, this comic is still a sleeper.

People do want it, but the demand for it hasn't driven up the value for most grades in a crazy way yet. This is a good silver age key issue to get right now. You can still get this key at decent prices for many unslabbed copies. They may be slightly over Overstreet prices for various grades, but not insanely over like what #55 is going through. 

Well, CGC 9.4 copies of #58 are being sold on ebay way over guide, but that's not surprising.

ebay - Shopping is good for this particular comic on the world's biggest market place. Prices are reasonable, but if you hunt for a bit, you'll surely be able to find a good deal. Visit the link to go directly to the search results for this Avengers comic.



Avengers #59 comic imageAVENGERS #59
  • 1st appearance of Yellow Jacket

I think it's safe to say that Henry Pym has indecisiveness disorder. The dude just can't make up his friggin' mind about what superhero he wants to be or what super power he wants his Pym Particles to achieve.

Yet again, Henry Pym switches from Goliath to another super identity, but Yellow Jacket? Serious?

A minor key issue that's pretty much a sleeper. I don't think demand for this bad boy is anywhere near luke warm, but it is surprisingly not that easy to find in CGC graded copies.

ebay - A few unslabbed copies, but even skimpier on the CGC selection for this key issue on ebay.





Avengers #60 cover
AVENGERS #60
  • Marriage of Yellow Jacket and Wasp


Finally, those two crazy kids Henry Pym and Janet van Dyne get married in this issue. Of course, a wedding never goes according to plan in comics, especially in a Marvel Comic. 

NewKadia - Only one VG+ copy under $10 bucks at NewKadia. Just visit the link above if you think this comic is for you! You will have to scroll down a bit

mycomicshop - Highgrade CGC 9.2 low Near Mint copy and one unslabbed GD/VG copy both ready to be plucked at the blue magic link above. Just click it to snag either one of these copies and add it as another prized piece to your comic investing collection.



Avengers #63 comic cover
AVENGERS #63
  • Goliath becomes Yellow Jacket
  • Clint Barton (Hawkeye) becomes Goliath


It's official in this issue: Henry Pym says the hell with being an overgrown behemoth and slips into his new role as...uh...Yellow Jacket. That's not all, however. I wish it were, but it's not.

It seems that ole Hawkeye (Clint Barton) got tired of being a purple version of Robin Hood and takes up the mantle of Goliath. I'd like to see Whedon try to incorporate this story into a future Avengers movie. Actually I shouldn't encourage him nor the studio. They may actually try to do it.

NewKadia - Only one copy here at a low FN. Extremely affordable for Avengers comic fans and fans of Hawkeye! Be sure to check it out. Hopefully it's still there when you do.

mycomichop - three unslabbed lower copies available here. Extremely affordable!

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Avengers Key Issues!


Welcome to Part 1 of this list of Avengers Key Issues. This 3 Part list will cover some of the most significant key comics within the Avengers title, as well as some not so significant ones. Oh, yes, this key comic Avengers list only follows volume 1, and hopefully it will help aid you in some Avengers comics to invest in. So let's assemble this!




Avengers #1 comic cover
AVENGERS #1
  • 1st appearance of the Avengers
  • Origin of The Avengers
The absolute holy grail of Avengers key issues to own. The Avengers #1 comic is sought out by many, and those that do have this silver age key issue in high CGC grades are sitting on a truly nice investment. 

This issue sees the strange team up of Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Ant-Man (Henry Pym) and his gorgeous other half, the Wasp!

According to the CGC census, there are no 9.8 graded copies and 3 CGC 9.6 NM+s. However, one of the three is a restored copy. With the Avengers movie franchise being extremely successful, this key has become one of the best comics to invest in in the last couple of years. As time continues to pass, this comic will only get more and more valuable.

Got the sand to invest in this comic? If so, here's some places you snag this silver age key comic.

mycomicshop.com -  An extremely nice CGC 8.5 VF+ is available at mycomicshop. Talk about an awesome comic investment. If you really wanna make an investment, be sure to click the link and snag this one. I doubt it will be available for very long.

ComicLink - Quite a few CGC graded copies here of Avengers #1. Most are in the mid to lower grades, however, but still great investment comics to own.



Avengers #2 cover
AVENGERS #2
  • Hulk leaves The Avengers
Well, it didn't take long for the Jade Giant to part company with Earth's Mightiest Heroes, and it's no surprise. The Hulk may be an original member, but he wasn't for long. Which makes sense since Hulk is a misunderstood character anyway that seems a bit out of place in a team.

Also, due to insecurities and feeling inadequate next to heavy hitters like Iron Man and Thor, Henry Pym abandons Ant-Man and makes his first appearance as Giant-Man in issue #2. [visit the link to find out in what comics marks the first appearance of Henry Pym and Ant-Man.]

An expensive key, but not nearly as in demand as Avengers #1. Still, it's a highly desirable comic that can cost one month's living expenses depending on where you live.

mycomicshop - Once again the great folks at mycomicshop pull through with a CGC graded copy of Avengers #2. It's a 5.0 VG/FN, so it's a bit more affordable for the average comic collector.  

ebay - Lots of copies of Avengers 2 on ebay of various grades both unslabbed and CGC graded. Just visit the link and it will bring you to the ebay search results for Avengers #2 comic.

ComicLink - The fine folks at ComicLink have three CGC graded copies available. The highest one I just saw is a 7.5 VF- (low Very Fine). The other two are CGC 6.5s, FN+ copies, waiting to get snagged.




Avengers #4 image
AVENGERS #4
  • Revival of Captain America
  • 1st silver age appearance of Captain America
  • 1st silver age appearance of Bucky
One of the most important silver age key issues, Avengers #4 reintroduces one of the most iconic American comic characters ever - Captain America - the silver age. Not only do we see Cap's re-emergence, we also see the first silver age appearance of his famed sidekick, Bucky. 

This revival was crucial to the Avengers comic as the team was in need of someone strong enough to lead Earth's Mightiest Heroes. The Captain America and Avengers movies are only making this comic more in-demand and rise in value.

mycomicshop - A nice, highly collectible CGC 6.5 FN+ copy has been located here. Not a bad grade for one of the best comics to invest in, and is just waiting for a smart comic investor to snag it. 

ebay - No trouble finding this silver age key issue on ebay whether you want it raw or professionally graded. Plenty of unslabbed, raw copies as well as CGC graded copies. If you want to get one of the top comics to invest in, ebay may be a good option for you.





Avengers #6 comic cover
AVENGERS #6
  • 1st appearance of original Masters of Evil
  • 1st full appearance of original Baron Zemo
The original Masters of Evil. Finally, The Avengers get a super villain team to put their might to the test. The original consisted of the original Black Knight, Melter and Radioactive man. This super villain team was put together by the original Baron Zemo, who became a popular foe for Captain America.

This isn't exactly the best line up for the Masters of Evil in my humble opinion, but it is a start. Nevertheless, this issue holds the first full appearance of Baron Zemo. However, Zemo did appear in flashbacks in Avengers #4 also, but was never addressed by name.

Not many options on ebay for the key issue, but there are some. CGC graded copies are pretty scarce in this market place. Below are the few copies I could locate on ebay:




Avengers #8 picture
AVENGERS #8
  • 1st appearance of Kang The Conqueror

While Baron Zemo is ranked 40th on IGN's greatest comic book villain of all time, Kang The Conqueror is ranked 65th. Not bad considering there's about a ka-zillion villains in comics.

It seems that badness runs in the family, and Kang happens to be related to none other than Dr. Doom. Oh, another cool thing about Kang is that he's from the future who travels back in time to Egypt to become a Pharoah - Rama-Tut. He ends up traveling ahead to the 20th Century, in which he starts all sorts of trouble for heroes of the Marvel universe, including The Avengers.

mycomicshop -  Can we say high grade CGC 9.4 NM? That's right! A gorgeous CGC graded 9.4 NM is available for sale at the link above. If you're a high grade key issue hunter and don't have Avengers #8, this copy at mycomicshop is for you. 




Avengers #9 comic cover image
AVENGERS #9
  • 1st appearance of Wonder Man
  • Death of Wonder Man


It's true...Wonder Man made his debut as a villain first. In this issue, he goes up against the Avengers and has a very short-lived career in comics during the silver age.

He was later revived during the bronze age. It's later discovered that Wonder Man's recorded brain patterns was transferred to none other than the Vision by Ultron. Avengers #9 happens to be one of the more sought out keys in the Avengers title.

NewKadia -  For all those who don't care much for CGC graded copies and prefer their comics raw, well those at NewKadia don't disappoint. Only one low FN copy available for sale at NK. Just visit the link above to check out this silver age key.


mycomicshop - If you like third party graded comics like me, perhaps this PGX 7.5 VF- (Low Very Fine) is a more appealing investment comic. Highly affordable as well. Be sure to check it out and add this comic to your Avengers collection. 

ebay- Not a whole lot of CGC high grade options, but it seems most copies selling on ebay are unslabbed mid to lower grade copies. However, this may change after the time of this writing, so it doesn't hurt to click the link. It will bring you directly to ebay's search results for the first appearance of Wonder Man in Avengers #9. 





Avengers #15 cover
AVENGERS #15
  • Death of Baron Zemo
First issues and first appearances are keys, but so are deaths of as well. The original Baron Zemo meets his end in this issue. Is there anything more to say about that? As a famous someone would say, "Nuff Said."

mycomicshop - Only one copy available here, but it's an investment worthy copy at CGC 9.0 VF/NM. If you're on the hunt for this Avengers key issue, be sure to check out this copy.





Avengers #16 image
AVENGERS #16
  • New Avengers team
  • Hawkeye, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch join
  • Thor, Wasp, Iron Man, Giant-Man leave
In with the new and out with the old. Avengers #16 marks an important turn of events in the Avengers saga when original members Thor, Wasp, Iron Man, and Henry Pym (Giant-Man/Ant-Man) leave. Instead, we see other iconic Avengers such as Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch and Hawkeye take their place under the command of Captain America.

With Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch assembling for the Avengers 2 Age of Ultron movie, this comic is starting to sell over a bit over guide prices concerning CGC copies but not really unslabbed copies. I thought the demand would be a bit heavier but apparently not. That means this is the perfect time to gun for this silver age key issue.


ComicLink - Topped with awesome sauce, two CGC copies of Avengers #16 are on the menu and ready to be served on a silver platter to the right connoisseurs of key issue comics. One is a CGC 9.0 VF/NM and the other is CGC 7.5 VF-. Both are investment worthy. 

ebay - At the moment, most of the copies for sale on ebay are mostly unslabbed copies, and they look to be mostly mid-grade copies. It's still worth a look, so visit the link because there could be more options before you know it. And it would be a shame if you let a great deal slip through your fingers on ebay.





Avengers #19 cover pic
AVENGERS #19
  • 1st appearance of the Swordsman
  • Origin of Hawkeye
Not exactly my favorite character or a very popular character to begin with, but the Swordsman does tie in Hawkeye's origin story. Another bad boy turned good (not in this issue), the Swordsman was Hawkeye's main arch nemesis for quite some time. 

This is a sleeper key issue, and you can still get this issue at guide prices even for CGC graded copies.  

mycomicshop - Choices, choices, choices! Quite a few choices at mycomicshop for the origin of Hawkeye. Up first is a gorgeous CGC graded 9.4 NM, ripe and ready to be plucked right off the vine. There's also an unslabbed 5.5 Low Fine, and for those with a smaller budget but would love to own this key, mycomicshop has two unslabbed GD/VG copies andone unslabbed solid VG copy.

ebay - Unslabbed copies galore on ebay with some decent prices. Mostly lower to mid grades for unslabbed copies. If you want unslabbed copies click the ebay link to go directly to the search results for this issue on ebay.

There are some CGC copies available as well but only a handful. Higher grade to lower grades for the taking. If you want CGC copies of the origin of Hawkeye click the link to see your options on ebay.




Avengers #28 imageAVENGERS #28
  • Giant-Man becomes Goliath
  • 1st appearance of the Collector
  •  
Giant-Man be gone and the newer and more improved Goliath takes a giant step into the chronicles of the Avengers. More important than Goliath being introduced in this issue, Avengers #28 also sees two original members, Henry Pym and Janet van Dyne, the Wasp, rejoin the Avengers as well.

On a less important note, we also have the first appearance of the Collector in this issue, who only really became somewhat well-known after it was announced that the character would be in the Guardians of the Galaxy movie. Actor Benicio Del Torro will be playing the not-so coveted role of the Collector. I still think he would've been a better Adam Warlock.

ebay - Couldn't find any CGC copies of this key issue, and it seems slabbed copies are scarce on the market. However, there sure are plenty of unslabbed copies to shop around.


Wednesday, August 21, 2013

In Response to Reality Check On Overstreet Guide Prices and Comic Values!


Recently, I read a letter to CBG by a certain someone who claimed that the Overstreet Price Guide values were extremely over-inflated. The man has been a collector and seller of golden and silver age comics for over 20 years and decided to write CBG about his concerns back in 2008. CBG decided to publish his letter online.

You can read it also by visiting the link here if you desire.

Why am I responding to this letter, especially since it was written five years ago? Well, the author addressed a very important subject that I think those investing in comics should know.

So basically in the letter, the author complains about the reality of Overstreet Guide values being highly more than the actual market value and demand. Here's his quote:

I have to say that most books that I have dealt with, as far as prices realized, do not even come close to what Overstreet lists as values, I don’t care if it’s high grade superhero golden age, or low grade silver age.

I think I should add the author mainly sells at comic conventions and ebay. However, I agree with basically one aspect of his rant.

Now, if we're talking about most modern age comics, then he is absolutely right. You won't even be able to sell most modern age comics at cover prices on ebay.

Even if we're talking about most common issue silver and bronze age comics, you'd probably be selling them for way under Overstreet guide prices on ebay. This is mostly true if they're raw, ungraded comics, which is why I generally don't like unslabbed (raw) comics, nor do I bother with most common issues from any comic era. If I can get a really super deal on them, I may consider it.

Most common issues usually don't sell that great. Unless they are CGC high grade silver or bronze age common issues of a popular title, they might sell near or over guide, but even that is a toss up most of the time.

An unslabbed, raw complete run may look great on paper, but when it comes to selling them, especially as a collection or comic lot, is pretty much a huge loss. Having complete runs often forces you to sell that collection in bulk, and selling a collection in bulk for any title greatly hinders your options in where to sell them for a decent price.

If you don't believe me, do a search on ebay for complete comic runs, and you'll see what I'm talking about. Or, better yet, you can click this link here to see what silver age complete runs sold for on ebay.

Then again, what average collector really has the money to get all these common issues at CGC 9.4 grades? I'd rather get the highest grade CGC key issues that I can afford. At least, they're easier to sell at various places other than ebay, and you'll most likely get near or even over guide prices for many of them.

Nevertheless, the real kicker that made my blood boil a tad was when the author said this about comic dealers purchasing comics:
Hello! One of your faithful long time subscribers here! I wanted to bring up an issue that has not really been addressed & discussed thoroughly & it has become a bit more crucial in these economic times: Overstreet price guide values. I know you guys publish your own guide, but there are a lot of people that use the old stand by, particularly the general public looking to sell their comics. I have been an active buyer & seller of Golden age/Silver/Bronze books for well over 20 years at various local shows, the Chicago comic con, and on ebay, I am also an active buyer of vintage books, so I do feel I do have some long term insight on the market. I have to say that most books that I have dealt with, as far as prices realized, do not even come close to what Overstreet lists as values, I don’t care if it’s high grade superhero golden age, or low grade silver age. This is not just ebay prices I’m talking here, it’s at the shows as well! It’s made buying books from the general public almost impossible, especially when they see these wildly over inflated prices, they think that we are trying to lowball them, when in fact, most books will never come close to actually realizing these prices listed in our “bible”. I know it’s not just me. I am hoping you will publish this in the letters section of your magazine as well! Please, let’s really talk about in depth on this issue!
I would also like to see many more market reports in your fine publication on the heart of the comic book market (gold through bronze).
- See more at: http://www.cbgxtra.com/oh-so-speak-your-mind/reality-check-on-overstreet-prices#sthash.77IUBfMc.dpuf
This is not just ebay prices I’m talking here, it’s at the shows as well! It’s made buying books from the general public almost impossible, especially when they see these wildly over inflated prices, they think that we are trying to lowball them, when in fact, most books will never come close to actually realizing these prices listed in our “bible”. - See more at: http://www.cbgxtra.com/oh-so-speak-your-mind/reality-check-on-overstreet-prices#sthash.77IUBfMc.dpuf
This is not just ebay prices I’m talking here, it’s at the shows as well! It’s made buying books from the general public almost impossible, especially when they see these wildly over inflated prices, they think that we are trying to lowball them, when in fact, most books will never come close to actually realizing these prices listed in our “bible”. - See more at: http://www.cbgxtra.com/oh-so-speak-your-mind/reality-check-on-overstreet-prices#sthash.77IUBfMc.dpuf
This is not just ebay prices I’m talking here, it’s at the shows as well! It’s made buying books from the general public almost impossible, especially when they see these wildly over inflated prices, they think that we are trying to lowball them, when in fact, most books will never come close to actually realizing these prices listed in our “bible”. - See more at: http://www.cbgxtra.com/oh-so-speak-your-mind/reality-check-on-overstreet-prices#sthash.77IUBfMc.dpuf

This is not just ebay prices I’m talking here, it’s at the shows as well! It’s made buying books from the general public almost impossible, especially when they see these wildly over inflated prices, they think that we are trying to lowball them, when in fact, most books will never come close to actually realizing these prices listed in our “bible”. 
This is not just ebay prices I’m talking here, it’s at the shows as well! It’s made buying books from the general public almost impossible, especially when they see these wildly over inflated prices, they think that we are trying to lowball them, when in fact, most books will never come close to actually realizing these prices listed in our “bible”. - See more at: http://www.cbgxtra.com/oh-so-speak-your-mind/reality-check-on-overstreet-prices#sthash.77IUBfMc.dpuf
I have to say that most books that I have dealt with, as far as prices realized, do not even come close to what Overstreet lists as values, I don’t care if it’s high grade superhero golden age, or low grade silver age. This is not just ebay prices I’m talking here, it’s at the shows as well! It’s made buying books from the general public almost impossible, especially when they see these wildly over inflated prices, they think that we are trying to lowball them, when in fact, most books will never come close to actually realizing these prices listed in our “bible”. - See more at: http://www.cbgxtra.com/oh-so-speak-your-mind/reality-check-on-overstreet-prices#sthash.77IUBfMc.dpuf
This is not just ebay prices I’m talking here, it’s at the shows as well! It’s made buying books from the general public almost impossible, especially when they see these wildly over inflated prices, they think that we are trying to lowball them, when in fact, most books will never come close to actually realizing these prices listed in our “bible”. - See more at: http://www.cbgxtra.com/oh-so-speak-your-mind/reality-check-on-overstreet-prices#sthash.77IUBfMc.dpuf
This is not just ebay prices I’m talking here, it’s at the shows as well! It’s made buying books from the general public almost impossible, especially when they see these wildly over inflated prices, they think that we are trying to lowball them, when in fact, most books will never come close to actually realizing these prices listed in our “bible”. - See more at: http://www.cbgxtra.com/oh-so-speak-your-mind/reality-check-on-overstreet-prices#sthash.77IUBfMc.dpuf
This is not just ebay prices I’m talking here, it’s at the shows as well! It’s made buying books from the general public almost impossible, especially when they see these wildly over inflated prices, they think that we are trying to lowball them, when in fact, most books will never come close to actually realizing these prices listed in our “bible”. - See more at: http://www.cbgxtra.com/oh-so-speak-your-mind/reality-check-on-overstreet-prices#sthash.77IUBfMc.dpuf

I have to say that most books that I have dealt with, as far as prices realized, do not even come close to what Overstreet lists as values, I don’t care if it’s high grade superhero golden age, or low grade silver age. This is not just ebay prices I’m talking here, it’s at the shows as well! It’s made buying books from the general public almost impossible, especially when they see these wildly over inflated prices, they think that we are trying to lowball them, when in fact, most books will never come close to actually realizing these prices listed in our “bible”. - See more at: http://www.cbgxtra.com/oh-so-speak-your-mind/reality-check-on-overstreet-prices#sthash.77IUBfMc.dpuf
One main reason why it's hard to buy comics, especially valuable key comics, from the general public if you're a comic dealer is because the public is a lot more aware and less ignorant. I am hoping that I have something to do with that as well.

Now, if you've ever sold your comics to a comic dealer, in which I have and learned from my mistake, you would know that -

1. Comic dealers pay 30% or lower for a comic's grade value!

That means if I sold my Giant Size X-Men #1 CGC graded 9.4 that's guided around $1,400, I'd only get $420 if I'm lucky enough to get it for 30% of guide value from a comic dealer. 

2. Some comic dealers will appraise the comics' grades lower than what they really are to pay less for your comics and increase their potential profits. To be fair, a lot of times most comic owners have an inflated views of their comics' grades as well.

This is only done with raw comics, which is why I always stress CGC! And they do do this! I've actually seen it in action a few times. There's a reason why comic dealers have the reputation of "low balling" those who make the mistake of selling off their collection to them.

3. After you've lost money selling your comics to a comic dealer, they will then price those comics at or near their graded Overstreet values.

Now, if these comics are over-inflated and will "never come close to actually realizing these prices," then why is it that comic dealers then try to turn those comics around near their Overstreet values for that particular grade? That sounds a bit shady hypocritical to me.

Amazing Spider-Man #300 cover
Well, let's talk about the realization of some Overstreet values when it comes to the comic market place on ebay. In May of this year (2013), I sold extra copies of Amazing Spider-Man #300 and 301 in the same auction for $67.00, not including shipping. Both were in VG condition, raw, and listed as such. As usual, I took quite a bit of pictures and noted all the defects I could in the listing.

Amazing Spider-Man #300 is guided at $18.00 for VG. Amazing Spider-Man #301 is guided at $4.00 for VG. Individually, the prices sold for each comic was $33.50. Minus the ebay, Pay Pal fees, shipping cost, and cost of the comics themselves, the profit was around $24.00 per book.
 
Another example is when I sold my extra copy of Uncanny X-Men #141, which was a raw VF- for $76.00, including $4.00 shipping for a grand total of $80.00. This was also sold on ebay in the month of May 2013 also.

My fees were:

Listing fees: None
10% Final Value Fee: $7.60
10% ebay Shipping Fee: .40
Pay Pal Fee: $2.62
Shipping Fee: $3.95
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Total Fees: $14.57

X-Men #141 cover pictureSo, my profit was $65.43. What's the guide value of X-Men #141? It's listed as $34.00 for a solid VF. That price was more than realized and even sold over guide. Then again, I did sell this comic, as with ASM #300, when both were extremely hot on the market, and both comics did make my list of the top key X-Men comics and the top Amazing Spider-Man key issues to invest in. You can click on both of the links to see what those key issue comics are.

So, yes, not only did the comics sell over their over-inflated prices, but I also got a pretty good return on investment for them. Not great, but better than if I sold them to the letter's author or another comic dealer.


Giant Size X-Men #1 CGC 9.4 image
Now, I do agree that most low-grade, unslabbed common issues sold on ebay are sold way under guide, but the author of the letter stated that it didn't matter whether they were high grade or low grade comics. That's wrong.

In July, a Captain America #104 CGC 9.4 sold for $199 bucks. The guide price for that comic at that grade is around $140-$150.

To further my point, an Iron Man #36 CGC 9.4 sold for $79.55. Guide has that issue tagged around $50, and like the Captain America #104, Iron Man #36 is a common issue.

Although the letter was a rant about the over-inflated Overstreet Guide prices, I think the real reason behind it is that the author was mainly pissed that it's harder to rip off the general public when it comes to buying their comics super cheap. When it comes to that, there's no way I'm willing to sell comics I invested in for 30% or less of it's guide value to him or any other comic dealer. Would the author of that letter be willing to do that? I didn't think so.

Now, don't get me wrong here. What the author and comic dealers do is the nature of the business. As I've always said before, it isn't their job to pay you what you're comics are worth. It's their job to sell comics and make money.

However, on the flip side. It's your investment comics and your job to research and learn how to get the most return out of your comic investments. It's not your job to make sure comic dealers can get your comics on the cheap to profit from.

The problem with this guy's pathetic rant, is that many comic dealers still are able to get valuable comics cheaply. Maybe not as often as before, but there are actually still people who bring in their comics to comic shops to sell at or even lower than 30% of guide value. Why people still do this is beyond me. I guess, some are desperate for cash which is understandable. Things happen in life.

However, some are just lazy and don't want to be bothered. A lot of times they inherited these comics, which is why if my kids show no interest in learning about comics they ain't getting my collection. No way am I going to give anyone investments that I worked hard to accumulate over the years just so they can sell my thousand dollar or higher comics for two-hundred each. I've also seen this happen as well.

Anyways, the guy who wrote the letter is only using ebay as his main gateway in selling comics to make a profit, and that is extremely hard. Talk about competition!

He doesn't have a brick and mortar store where ignorant or desperate people can bring in their comics so he can "low ball" them and get their comics for pennies on the dollar. He probably didn't even have his own online comic site during the time he wrote that letter.

Which brings to me to the other main reason why it's harder for comic dealers to shaft comic collectors when selling, and that's because there are more available options for the general public to sell their comics other than to just dealers. If you invest in the right comics, selling them will be so much easier with the invention of the internet. I'm not just talking about selling comics on ebay either.

In some cases, you may want to sell comics on ebay if you check what comics you have that are dropping (majority wise) near or over their grade and guide values. There are some that will as I've shown you from my personal examples, but watch out. Ebay and Pay Pal fees chew heavily into the returns on your comics. You have to calculate whether you'll make a profit on your return that satisfies when you sell comics on ebay.

On the flip side, you may not want to sell certain comics on ebay, because you may get even less money back on them than from a comic dealer. There are other avenues to sell comics online like Comic Connect, ComicLink, and mycomicshop.com where you can consign your comics. The fees are even less than ebay with some around 12%, 10%, and even less at some other places. You still do have to pay for shipping to ship the comics out to the company, however.

Incredible Hulk 181 cover
Like I said, it's all about the right comics you invested in. Places like ComicLink, ComicConnect, and mycomicship are still picky about what they allow you to submit to them for consignments. Certain comics must meet a certain grade in order for them to be willing to sell your comics in their market place. Also, there's a minimum value comics must be worth in order to be sold as consignments at these online comic market places as well. Most even have auctions every month, but as far as I know, they do not have auctions for entire collections or complete runs. Why else do you think I'm so coo-coo over key issue comics?

So, if you have a bunch of common issues that aren't high grade or not graded by CGC or PGX, you severely limit your options in places to sell those particular comics and getting decent prices in return in terms of the market place today. That could change in the not so distant future, but it's the reality now.

When I research what I've sold for what and what's selling for what, I see the opposite of what this guy is ranting about. The Overstreet Guide prices are way under-valued on quite a few comics as well.

I know Overstreet is not perfect, but Overstreet is pretty much the standard in the comic market. Thousands of comic retailers and collectors use the guide to determine what to price their comics for sale as well as at what price to buy. 

Despite his complaints, I'm betting the author of that letter uses the Overstreet Guide, too. He's just pissed that it's harder to "low ball" the general comic collecting public out of  their comics for cheap nowadays.

And, I'm personally glad that it is!